 04/05/2010 06:11 AM
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MikeyD Occasional Poster

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After getting a little bit peed off with high prices, incorrect specs and basic BS from most if not all the companies I decided to have a look at the factories themselves.
I am still on my mission as I have found so many factories. Some seem quite good and obviously some of these provide to all the big companies we use as middle men (women).
Some show pics of the factories themselves, not that it means anything.
But from what I gather so far you can be looking at as little as $60.00 for a custom make system with remy hair on a skin base with swiss lace front with up to 12 inches in length.
Of course from the factory you have the same issues with wrong specs coming back etc etec but there is a feeling of being in control.
What happens at the moment with a company like Hairdirect?
They get samples from a company, access the quality, agree a price and then send them the spec.
You don't need to speak fluent Chinese. You basically do what you do when ordering online.
The key is finding the right factory.
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 04/05/2010 08:49 AM
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great chef Accomplished Poster

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Originally posted by: MikeyD
After getting a little bit peed off with high prices, incorrect specs and basic BS from most if not all the companies I decided to have a look at the factories themselves.
I am still on my mission as I have found so many factories. Some seem quite good and obviously some of these provide to all the big companies we use as middle men (women).
Some show pics of the factories themselves, not that it means anything.
But from what I gather so far you can be looking at as little as $60.00 for a custom make system with remy hair on a skin base with swiss lace front with up to 12 inches in length.
Of course from the factory you have the same issues with wrong specs coming back etc etec but there is a feeling of being in control.
What happens at the moment with a company like Hairdirect?
They get samples from a company, access the quality, agree a price and then send them the spec.
You don't need to speak fluent Chinese. You basically do what you do when ordering online.
The key is finding the right factory.
does any of the factorys you found take paypal,,, the toplacewig factory use to take paypal but doesnt anymore which put me off a little
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 04/05/2010 09:42 AM
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MikeyD Occasional Poster

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I believe there is some issue in China using Paypal, have not gone into that far yet as in actually ordered
I have had several come back now and the most expensive is $90.00
I actually feel quite sick that AHS and some others are chargeing like 1000's of pounds for these units.. It's a total scam based on peoples vulnerabilities.
Did you use the toplace factory before then, if so what was it like?
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 04/05/2010 10:05 AM
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great chef Accomplished Poster

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i agree with you about ahs and others . i looked in to toplace wigs a couple of years ago and then they did take paypal at the time then last year i thought i give them a go emailed then with my specs and the price was good , less then $100 for a custom. but had to send my template by dhl or fed ex which was not cheap . and u had to use western union never used then before so i didnt go though with it ...
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 04/05/2010 12:46 PM
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MikeyD Occasional Poster

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I will make sure I ask that question about the payment method. I have had another quote for $80.00
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 04/05/2010 12:54 PM
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great chef Accomplished Poster

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Originally posted by: MikeyD
I will make sure I ask that question about the payment method. I have had another quote for $80.00
this sounds great . keep us informed mikey
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 04/07/2010 12:53 AM
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newdisco Regular Poster

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Good work MickeyD. Just shows how much mark up there is on these, even from the likes of HairDirect and many of the other "low cost" vendors, not to mention AHS, Farrell and Co.
But do the factories supply only bulk orders, i.e. do you have to guarantee a minimum order of say 100 units to make it worth their while. I was under the impression few if any would deal with individual customers. Of course a Group Buy could always be organised.
As for Paypal acceptance, many online suppliers use it - Hollywood Lace, BA Hair, to name a couple. If TL are no longer using it they could be well be missing out on even more business.
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 04/07/2010 02:36 AM
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MikeyD Occasional Poster

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I don't think they can use paypal in China so its by Western Union, I have used them before so no biggie.
They do deal with inidvidual clients, its all the same criteria as we have with the companies in UK/US. So if it isnt to spec they will let you return it for a fix.
Also I noticed their rush orders is like $10 more, not 50 or 100 like we get charged.
These hair companies are raking it in, really and truly. It's so simple, no wonder there are so many.
All they do is send the order form to China. That is it. So simple.
Looking at it there is really no benefit from going to a middleman, obviously the difficult part if finding a reliable factory.
I like the feeling of having more control. When I want to know what is happening I can ring or email the factory direct.
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 04/09/2010 06:35 PM
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Baldee73 Regular Poster

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Put me done for group buy,
IF i could get a system for $60 - $100 i defenitely be interested.
If you do the math and get 50 people to order 2 systems at pop theres 100 systems right there !!
AS LONG as the factory is consistent with the quality i would give it ago.
example order 3 and tell them to ship 1 to the person and if the person accepts the quality make and ship the other 2 !!
I wonder how much shipping is from asia !!
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 04/11/2010 12:22 AM
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newdisco Regular Poster

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toplacewigs quoted me USD120 to make a custom FULL CAP in 20 days. Anyone know what their work is like?
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 04/11/2010 12:56 AM
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lancsboy Occasional Poster

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Originally posted by: newdisco
toplacewigs quoted me USD120 to make a custom FULL CAP in 20 days. Anyone know what their work is like?
wow $120 for a full cap . wished we had more info on this company price wise they sound great
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 04/15/2010 03:42 PM
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MikeyD Occasional Poster

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Ok I ordered from one company not mentioned here. They have been really commicating well and they seem to know what they are talking about.
I have done a two week rush order and its a 20.00 USD via fedex , around 3 days delivery.
I will let you know the results. I have sent my old system to them in snail mail so they won't get that until about 7 days. So its 2 weeks from there.
I will try a couple of these companies and feedback.
I am rather excited about this and if it comes back wrong they have agreed to fix it. If it all goes well I will order more.
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 04/17/2010 08:54 AM
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El Che Occasional Poster

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I recently purchased 2 units directly from China.Unfortunately the quality was very disappointing.I had to return 1 unit after wearing it for only 3 days,it was a Thinskin unit and it shed like crazy.The other unit I ordered is a lace unit which I'm wearing and I'm not overly impressed with either.As was mentioned on this site previously a lot of these guys are middle men,their web sites give the impression that you are ordering directly from the factory but it's rarely the case
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 04/17/2010 04:08 PM
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MikeyD Occasional Poster

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Well there are so many factories out there. I found about 20 and went for the ones that seemed to know their stuff. Some really didnt.
Anyway nothing ventured nothing gained. I am pretty sick of all the companies I have dealt with, from their bad delivery times, their BS promoises and inferior systems.
So I will find out if this is a cheap and worth while alternative.
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 04/17/2010 05:34 PM
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newdisco Regular Poster

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Even if they are middlemen, I guess their commissions must be a lot less than what those we're used to dealing with in the west are, and who don't exactly have a 100% reliabiltiy record for getting things right as we all know.
The thing with using these low cost Chinese source is that, even if they get it wrong, at least you haven't blown hundreds of dollars and it's not too costly to move onto the next one. If and when one comes up trumps you'll easily recoup the investment on what you save by not having to keep on using the US/UK-based middlemen.
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 04/25/2010 05:14 AM
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El Che Occasional Poster

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I'm placing an order with Toplace Wigs,there prices seem reasonable,we'll have to see what their products are like.When I receive the pieces I'll give my opinion on them.I hope we can use this forum to give honest assessments of our experiences in ordering directly from China.
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 05/27/2010 02:58 PM
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MikeyD Occasional Poster

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I received a decent enough system from hair-art.com, arrived in two weeks.
It's not the best I have seen but they got the colour and density spot on.
But it was cheap enough and the fast turn around was amazing and only cost an extra $10.00
I have a couple of others on order from difference factories but feel free to pm me for info as I doubt I will post publically.
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 07/23/2010 04:57 PM
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El Che Occasional Poster

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I had the misfortune of ordering 2 units from Hair Art.One of the units was a Thinskin that shed very badly within 4 days of wearing that I sent it back.Their remake wasn't great.I found that they used very poor quality hair that became dry and brittle after the first wash.
It's my opinion that buying very cheap inferior units is a false economy as you can't rely on the quality.Find a couple of decent suppliers and stick with them at least you know what you are getting.
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 07/24/2010 10:06 AM
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dawn1952 Occasional Poster

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mikey, unless you have regular high volume orders the quality of the systems will be inferior, you may get a good sample but unless you are placing orders in quantity the odd one will be rubbish.
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