 02/23/2010 09:18 AM
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Maxster Prolific Poster

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I'm trying to come up with a gameplan for the worst possible scenario...as of now, I still have what the average non mpb sufferer would call a full head of hair (I know better though).
The reality is that I am a diffuse pattern thinner all over my head, it is only slightly noticable to me, however, I can see "the line" as I like to call it where the thicker side hair meets the slightly thinner hair on top...unfortunately this looks to be a norwood 6 pattern.
My question is, if it ever came down to it, would a FUE transplant concentrating only on the frontal third of my head look ridiculous once the norwood 6 actually "set in."
I would buzz it very low, like a 1 or 2 and just not worry about the the back at all.
Framing the face in some fashion would be all I'm concerned about.
What do you guys think, I'm trying to prepare for the worst long before (hopefully long anyway) it happens. Hopefully, this won't happen, but it is certainly a possibility...
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 02/23/2010 10:37 AM
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chonger Accomplished Poster

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i think it would look a little odd to have only the front 1/3 done because where would it tie in to the rest of the hair? You'd be left w/ a little island in the front. If you are truly going NW 6, I say the best thing is to shave it off and save the money and frustration. Also, not sure if FUE is great for NW6 because of the small donor area.
just my opinion, of course.
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 02/23/2010 02:38 PM
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EpilepticSceptic Accomplished Poster

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Age, family history of MPB ?
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 02/23/2010 04:11 PM
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Maxster Prolific Poster

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I'm not talking about getting a hair transplant now, but in the future if it gets that bad...
As of now I'm 24, my dad's side of the family all has absolutley perfect hair, mom's side not so much. My grandfather was probably a norwood 5 or 6 and my mom, at the age of 49 is actually already showing signs of thinning hair.
As of right now I'm probably a norwood 1.5 with diffuse thinning all over the scalp...unless you were trained to look for hairloss, you wouldn't notice if you saw me on the street...especially if I grow my hair out, but I like sporting a number 3 buzz cut as of now.
I'm trying to fight the good fight, but seeing that I will never touch finasteride, it is possible I will lose the battle... I haven't jumped on the minox boat either...seems to me consensus is that minox or not, you will eventually decline...
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 02/23/2010 04:36 PM
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Psily Occasional Poster

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 02/25/2010 04:59 PM
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Innermind Accomplished Poster

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yes it would look *****ed up.
I just dont want to explain why anymore, as its been done many times. only about 1% of NW 6's can get a good transplant, and half of them who call themselves NW6's I truly believe are more like NW 5's. Just do yourself a favor and get over your hair.
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F@(K it! No treatments. Nothing. Im done wasting money.
Dr. Thomas (scum) Wentland-1800 hairs, destroyed my life.
Dr. Ron Shapiro- 176 FUE into scar. Happy with results.
Buzzing my head no guard, happy except for the marks left from scumland, i mean Dr. wentland.
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 02/25/2010 08:45 PM
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Maxster Prolific Poster

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Innermind,
Get over it huh, ha, easier said than done there bro.
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 02/26/2010 07:34 AM
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SimpleSolution Regular Poster

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maxster, i was your age when my bald spot started showing. by 28, it was clearly there. i'm happy that i "jumped" on minox and started using nizoral shampoo. it bought me approx. 6 years of hair looking good.
as you do not have anything yet, keeping your hair short, you should really try minox and see what it will do for you. i would suggest to try fin as well. if you have sides, just stop it, as i did.
the longer you keep your hair, the longer you don't have to worry about a transplant. 10-12 years down the road, who knows what your priorities will be. maybe, and a big one there, HM will be proven and then you can have a NW 1 from a NW7.
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 02/26/2010 10:39 AM
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EpilepticSceptic Accomplished Poster

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I wouldn't bet on HM. I mean, when you think about how long it took the shady HT industry to evolve and become something more than just a slick marketing scam of lies selling doll hair and frankenstein flaps -- well, that should tell you something! It took over 40 years for somebody to decide one day that doll hair plugs were somehow not attractive (probably from the overwhelming backlash of disfigured monsters), and hence today we have a procedure that can actually at least duplicate nature to some extent where patients aren't being disfigured for life anymore after paying some conman money fiend doctor.
And if it wasn't for docs like H & W, Limmer, Woods, etc. pushing the envelope then where would we be today ? When you look at the technology (and approaches) those docs developed, it had little to do with recent modern technology breakthroughs making their advancements possible. Most of their "breakthroughs" had to do with human beings who were simply fed up with the industry and who demanded something better than doll hair; and had the industry come to a stand still in the 70s from consumer outrage then by the 80s we would have seen modern FUT transplants being done (and today, who knows, we might already have HM).
Concerning most of these anti-finasteride dudes on here, the vast majority who share this sentiment generally still have enough hair to look non-balding. So, of course, it's rather easy to be anti-fin. when hairloss hasn't taken its' true toll on the person yet. But when you look in the mirror one day and you're staring at a stranger who looks like a 50 year old man (and you're 30), at that point you'd gladly swallow rat poison if it would slow down the loss.
Originally posted by: SimpleSolution
maxster, i was your age when my bald spot started showing. by 28, it was clearly there. i'm happy that i "jumped" on minox and started using nizoral shampoo. it bought me approx. 6 years of hair looking good.
as you do not have anything yet, keeping your hair short, you should really try minox and see what it will do for you. i would suggest to try fin as well. if you have sides, just stop it, as i did.
the longer you keep your hair, the longer you don't have to worry about a transplant. 10-12 years down the road, who knows what your priorities will be. maybe, and a big one there, HM will be proven and then you can have a NW 1 from a NW7.
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 02/26/2010 02:20 PM
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mintyfresh Prolific Poster

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it might end up looking strange on it's own but you could wear a hairpiece to cover the crown area if you needed coverage in that area in the future, if your hairline is real growing hair, then it could actually work very well
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 02/26/2010 04:18 PM
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Hair today,Gone tomorrow Prolific Poster

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ALso comparing technological advances from past times does not apply as much to modern day, as the more technology created, the faster new technology is born. The advancements will only get better faster as time goes on.
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 02/28/2010 11:11 PM
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Calvin 2.0 Accomplished Poster

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#1- Minox & Propecia have been around for 15+ years and it is clear how limited their effectivenesss really is.
#2- The internet took away the HT industry's ability to function on pure fraud and exposed its severe limitations.
#3- The importance (read: dollar value) of men's cosmetic improvements has been skyrocketing in the last 20 years. Mature hairlines that were the desired goal 30 years ago are becoming the problem that the patient wants treated today.
#4- Science has finally made HM a viable thing to attempt. More than one method is being researched with serious intent.
These forces are coming together all at once and the result is gonna be HM. It's only a question of the specifics now.
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 03/02/2010 02:25 AM
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EpilepticSceptic Accomplished Poster

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Well, how long might it take to work those "specifics" out ? I went to the Aderans site and it looks like they are accepting applicants for the phase 2 trials.
I wonder if there's a way we could get more "inside" information about the likliehood and timeline for this stuff becoming a reality for those of us to whom it would be worth a ridiculous amount of $ if it did indeed work !!
Originally posted by: Calvin 2.0
#1- Minox & Propecia have been around for 15+ years and it is clear how limited their effectivenesss really is.
#2- The internet took away the HT industry's ability to function on pure fraud and exposed its severe limitations.
#3- The importance (read: dollar value) of men's cosmetic improvements has been skyrocketing in the last 20 years. Mature hairlines that were the desired goal 30 years ago are becoming the problem that the patient wants treated today.
#4- Science has finally made HM a viable thing to attempt. More than one method is being researched with serious intent.
These forces are coming together all at once and the result is gonna be HM. It's only a question of the specifics now.
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 03/02/2010 08:36 PM
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transplant 4 Prolific Poster

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Originally posted by: Calvin 2.0 #1- Minox & Propecia have been around for 15+ years and it is clear how limited their effectivenesss really is.
Well first IMO Rogaine foam is MUCH better than the liquid and that has only been around a few years.
I have has excellent results form Propecia and Foam. The problem is guys start too late. I have seen younger guys without much hair loss get amazing results from Fin and foam.
I also have zero sides after 14 years on fin
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 03/02/2010 08:38 PM
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transplant 4 Prolific Poster

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Originally posted by: Maxster I'm trying to fight the good fight, but seeing that I will never touch finasteride, it is possible I will lose the battle... I haven't jumped on the minox boat either...seems to me consensus is that minox or not, you will eventually decline...
I hope you are not afraid of Propecia because of what a few people keep posting OVER AND OVER on the internet.
If you are thinning at 24 without Propecia and Rogaine foam you are headed for more hair loss
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