Hi,

I'm 25 years old and have been experiencing hair loss for a few years now.What really gets me down is my receded hairline.My hair has always been naturally thin and straight.Last year i discovered concealers(dermatch & toppik), and it made a massive difference to the thickness of my hair!.I would just love for my frontal loss to be fixed,even if its density wasnt that great i could thicken up with toppic ect..

I have been researching for like 5 months now and visited many other forums.I know at 25 my hair loss could progress even more but my hairline has stayed the same since i was 22.

I'm currently not on any meds like propecia because i'm concerned about the side effects.I do fitness modeling and sponsered by some sports nutrition brands.I can't risk it effecting my body as i need to be lean and ripped at all times.

I contacted HDC (based in cyprus) and decided to go for a free consultation in the UK.The conclusion was that work could be done on my frontal loss. Below was the info i received from this consultation...

Your donor area, which has an approximate density of 76 fu's /cm2 which is slightly below average, can give more than enough grafts for the area that is needed to be covered at this stage. According to what we have discussed in the meeting we have recommended that it will be useful to take approximately 1500-1700 grafts. The minimum in one go that an FUE procedure can provide for you is 3500 grafts over three days. Of course after the procedure you will be still left with plenty of grafts to be utilised if ever needed in the future. The 1700 grafts will be used to recreate and reinforce in detail and with great density the following areas.

* Hairline: approximate area 30 cm2 at density of 45 fu's/cm2 = 1350 grafts (First .5cm will have density of 65 fu's/cm2 with only single hair fu's placed)
* Area behind hairline and reinforcing: approximate area 12cm2 at density of 30 fu's/cm2 = 360 grafts



the new hairline placement




with concealer in(dermatch & toppik)




buzzed grade 3




cut short no concealers


I would love to hear peoples opinions on my situation

Thanks,

James

James, with the photo's you've posted it's really difficult to give you any advice. Can you take some pictures in better lighting of the top of your head? From what I've seen of HDC I think they do pretty good work and get excellent coverage for so few grafts. Goodluck with it.

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hi, thanks for the reply...

these are the best shots i can get at the moment...

no concealers

HDC has shown some good work. I think it is a good choice that you are planning on doing FUE because if need be down the road you can still pull off a buzzed look which also seems to suit you well. I think you ccan have a good result from a HT focused on the frontal area/hairline.

James, those pics are much better it looks like you're starting to lose hair in the crown too. be aware that if you address the hairline now, that in the future you may have to go back for some more work in other areas. As MoHair has stated, HDC are doing some good work from the photo's I've seen posted here.

Remember there are other doctors who do excellent work too, so make sure you research more and try to meet some patients in person before you make any decisions. In person HT's can be quite different to the photo's you see here. Goodluck with it all.

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5059 Grafts Dr.Hasson July 21st, 2008
2381 Grafts Dr. Hasson July 21st, 2010
Total : 7440 grafts
1.25mg Proscar daily


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James,

Why do you think finasteride will affect your body mass or appearance? Three years is not alot of time to noice a change in hairline however you're still very young and with the loss you have to date, the medications are far more of a factor in getting a handle on your hairloss than surgery.

What is your family history in MPB? Any Norwood class 6 & 7's?

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trying propecia is the best thing you can do,even if you take it eod.It is very effective for most.It wont affect your physique or training.I am a gym rat and my performance and shape are the same as before!!.I havent noticed any difference after 5 months. You can always stop if you get any sides.

Was Dr Michael Georgiou or one of the other doctors present at the counsultation? HDC have an excellent reputation, so I don't think you can go wrong with them. Judging from your photos, I would have thought you would need more grafts than was estimated - that's why I asked if a doctor was present at the consultation. I haven't seen you in person though so difficult to say. Blond hair is often finer than dark hair, so you would need more grafts than the typical Mediterranean patient with thick, dark wavy hair. My guess is that the hair at the front is on its way out and won't be there for very long - I think you really need the whole front third filling in. You'll probably lose the crown hair too at some stage.

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Edited: 06/13/2009 at 05:33 AM by PB

no doctors were present there

I have decided to try fin and rogain foam.. i'm hoping to thicken up and maybe some regrowth.

How long do you think i should be on meds before i consider a transplant?

This is the current level of fitness i maintain throughout the year..

I'm just soo scared that when i start medication i will put on bodyfat from the propecia/fin..heard something about raised estrogen levels








notice how i think the concealers make such a difference!!!!

i heard something about raised estrogen levels...

well my grandad has a full head of hair and is 90.My dad however is a norwood 6

james are you taking any fat burning drugs or supplements caffeine some of them cause hair loss also if you are staying at that low bodyfat all year around its very likely your getting hair loss from lack of fat in the diet your body needs some fat being ripped all the time is not normal and does lead to hair loss and weaker hair in some people also some fat burning drugs and steriods cause hair loss to speed up as in kick start it years before it was going to happen
esp the drug called clenbuterol and caffeine tablets have been linked to hair loss because caffeine can block some vitamins from been absorbed by your body when i am ripped i find i have much more hair coming out also your correct about fin propecia i find it puts fat on my hips and abs and maybe 4 pounds in weight gain after 1 month plus gives me joint pains esp if weight lifting but when i come off it pain goes after 3 weeks i wouldent think you should get a transplant yet wait at least 5 years as your hair loss is starting young and you dont want to have a transplant done too young as you could be a norwood 6 by 40 you cant say but i think try fin and see how it goes for you in my case it caused fat on abs and hips and bad joint pains but some people have 0 side effects so give it a go plus rogaine foam is good again just watch out for it causing bags under eyes as in your line of work last thing you want is too look like that this is just what happend to me and most likey wont too you get on the meds now and good luck hopefully you wont losse any more hair s

Edited: 06/13/2009 at 01:23 PM by mcriot29

Hi,

All i have ever taken is whey protein for after my workouts...

I have had this low bodyfat for years.. maybe i need to get some more junk food down me lol

I actually had my bodyfat tested last year and was around 3% which i couldnt believe.The guy who tested me asked if my general health was ok because as you stated its not healthy to keep at that level...he told me most bodybuilders struggle to keep this bodyfat only for the day of competition and thats it

I don't use meds myself... I tried Rogain before my HTs and it only made things worse. I tried fin but stopped after only 2 weeks. To find out whether fin is working or not, you really need to use it for 9 months to a year.

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do you take fish oils you need some fatty acids for hair etc 3% bodyfat is very low do you take any carbs hair needs carbs no good having lots of protein sure this will help make you look big and ripped but at what price im into bodybuilding 13 years and any time i go low carb it has an effect on my hair i know you have to look ripped for what your job is but is it worth all the risks its not good for your body high protein low fat and carbs means weak hair why dont you add some carbs to your protein shake before and after your workout at least this way it wont be stored as fat as your body needs carbs after workout eats them up at least 50 grams of carbs from a weight gain supplement 4 large spoons dont worry about it been called weight gain there allways low fat and high carbs plus if you take before and after workout body wont store it at all as fat but it will do a lot for your hair and body

hi, i have just started taking fish oils as of today!

I would say i do have a good amount of carbs... i eat plenty or rice,bread,oats ect

man.. you are ripped.. that must take some real dedication.. hats off to you.

BTW, toppik looks great on you. I use it in a very similar way. In the end, after 4+ years of daily usage, i just can't take the routine anymore.

Get on the meds and see what happens.. i don't think you are too bad yet, could really get some nice regrowth.

from the second pics, i'd guess you and i have incredibly similar loss patterns

you've lost a little more than me, though i am 2years younger so i guess that's expected. i'd 100% recommend fin for atleast 12-18months before you go for a ht though, it hasn't stopped my loss, but it has definately slowed it down, and there is some regrowth.

i'll post some pics tomorrow if remember, i have nothing on my laptop and i'm in bed atm

if you could post some side pics and crown shots too it'd be great

*EDIT*

through the miracle of phone>internet blogging, my lazy arse managed to upload pics without leaving my bed


july 2008


yesterday

the pics are crap, and imo very misleading about actual loss, but they were both taken in exactly the same spot, 11-12months apart (outside my work) and although my hair is "slightly" longer in second pic (1st pic is a 7 on top, think second is scissor cut 7-8, not much difference), you can still see atleast some improvement imo. iirc the 1st pic was taken very very shortly before or after i started on fin.

i'll post proper pics tomorrow when i have time, might give you a better idea .

nite

Edited: 06/14/2009 at 05:31 PM by Psily

Psily, you have never had a procedure? Your hair looks much thicker in the second pic.

Yeah, I agree Who needs hair with a body like that!?

I actually have a very similar body - the only difference is that mine is covered with 20 lbs of fat And I can't blame finasteride for it because I don't use it.


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