Celco you are the man. More people should be like you.

you know what, I do believe that a positive attitude reaps rewards in your daily life, but my point is that it won't change what Aderans will bring us in the future,

and you are correct negativity is a killer, but I am being honest and practical, not negative, I am a realist and a skeptic, I try my best to operate in the world as it really is, not how I want it to be but as it really really really is, it's a very effective way to see the world, and it serves me very well

for instance do you really think that Aderans is simply passing on their results for you to judge, or do you think they might be only showing their best side and at least talking up their research to some degree?,

if you don't think this is the case then I would say you are being somewhat naive,

to what degree they are taking themselves up we just don't know, what I am saying is lets wait and see before we go gaga over a press release,

Ok at least we know where we all stand on this, we all want it to work, so lets agree to that at least,

Agree that we all want it to work.

I strongly believe though that we need a positive attitude about what they (and Histogen, Replicel etc) are doing. Not blind or stupid positivity ofcourse but positivity nonetheless.

They are out there working to make a difference to our lives. There is some good science behind their work and we should be happy and excited about that. So the focus should be on success in hairloss treatment.

If what they do doesnt work then NOTHING will change in hairloss treatment... So why waste time and energy thinking about nothing changing? Won't make things any different.

If they succeed hair will be growing on heads. Its much more exciting and fulfilling to focus and think about that. Thats the way i see it anyway.

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1.25mg Fin daily
Minox foam or liquid intermittently
Nizoral shampoo every 2-3 days
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We need something better than Fin approved that targets the scalp only.
We need much better hair growth stimulants.

I can certainly imagine mintyfresh's resistance to getting overly excited about any product. While I'm fairly new to the hair loss world (Propecia was working great till I quit ) I can see that the hopes of the bald community has been jerked around for some time.

I think there are some valid, concrete reasons to stay positive though. I think Aderans has more incentive than most to put this product on the market. Think about what happens if a company outside the domain of hair transplants comes up w/ a cure, BOOM hair transplant surgeons just lost their jobs, and their experience would pretty much mean nothing. If Aderans is successful, it is sure to keep these doctors employed. Based on this, I imagine hair transplant doctors getting very nervous about other companies' research, and they probably are about as anxious to see this succeed as we are, you can see Bosley has put a lot of future hope on this treatment.

Suppose, worst case scenario, Aderans fails to produce. They have still contributed immensely to the hair research community.

Honestly, with where we are now w/ technology, it's not a matter of if, but when. My biggest fear is not IF they can produce treatments, my biggest fear is that a shit product (like Propecia IMO), destroys the monetary incentive for companies to pursue new research.

Looks like they're still researching pretty heavily for now , which is much reason to stay positive..

The fact that mintyfresh is still on this thread, sweating every press release from Aderans, proves he is still interested in this treatment and does not believe his own words. So just ignore him like I will from now on.

Of course I'm interested in the treatment,

if and when it's proven to work

get it now?

we don't need to CLONE hairs... we just need to rejuvenate existing ones....

Don't expect this on the market by 2014. Last I heard they're now not going to be finishing phase 2 until NEXT year!

And you heard this where?

Hairsite. Some guy there posted info on it.

http://www.prweb.com/releases/2012/1/prweb9129379.htm

Ack! Not the greatest news. Thanks for the info CameraEye.

I'd like to clarify that the press release says BY next year, meaning they're targeting completion in 2012.

I'm not implying anyone should get their hopes up just yet. Far from it. But for the sake of accuracy...

I'm not sure about the knowledge level here, but this notion of this technology being available in 20 months is WRONG! This company is only in Phase II of this study and they stated that they should wrap up the Phase II study sometime next year. But it doesnt end there. To get FDA approval, they need to conduct a Phase 3 study. The Phase 3 study could take several years to complete. Then they have to submit their study to the FDA advisory panel which could take another 6 months or so. And then its got to go for FDA approval. This could easily carry into 2016. I think by 2020, there will be a flood of new technologies submitted for FDA approval by many different companies. This problem will soon be solved!

I believe you mean this will carry into 2017

I'm the one that posted on hairsite that trials won't be over till 2013. Go on clinicaltrials.gov, and search for them.

If this company really had the cure for hairloss, one of the big pharma companies would buy them out and pay whatever it costs to do it.

I wanna see before after photos of a man who was once bald and who now has a boatload of hair, not some 100X close up of a scalp. No significant cosmetic difference whatsoever.

Now it's 2017??? Just 5 years away!!! LMAO!!
This little company is doing what all the big pharmas with billions of research dollars can't do??? Yeah, right! LOL!

Lazerfish, ARI is the research arm of Aderans which is a big company listed on the Japanese stock exchange. ARI is the research arm that is doing the work on hair regeneration.

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1.25mg Fin daily
Minox foam or liquid intermittently
Nizoral shampoo every 2-3 days
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We need something better than Fin approved that targets the scalp only.
We need much better hair growth stimulants.

will their treatment make EXISTING follicles DHT resistant? I don't need "new" follicles... simply HALTING balding process and rejuvenating existing follicles would be enough for most of us