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Topic Title: fin users please reply, anyone have more shedding, acne, sore scalp while on fin ?
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 11/06/2011 02:02 PM
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fin users please reply, anyone have more shedding, acne, sore scalp while on fin ?

It's crazy how oily and how much ance in getting while on fin, along with it I get a sore scalp and shedding.

Any other fin users have this effect while on fin, and did it go away ?

I plan to stick it out for 15 months, so far been 2 weeks.

Thanks

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Rogaine foam-day5%(all over top of scalp 2 capfulls worth)-9/09
Minox liquid 5%-night-3/11
1% nizoral 2x week
FIN 1.25 mg(walgreens)-10/11
Biotin 5mg
Msm 2000mg
Ru58841 140 mg 4ml ethonal/pg mixture

Edited: 11/11/2011 at 03:19 PM by irishpride86
 11/06/2011 03:24 PM
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I've had lots of shedding but the hair always seems to come back. I also have nasty acne, but can control it with topical medications to a degree.
 11/06/2011 03:32 PM
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Give me a timeline of your fin shedding and how it looks better or worse then before.

Thanks for replying

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Rogaine foam-day5%(all over top of scalp 2 capfulls worth)-9/09
Minox liquid 5%-night-3/11
1% nizoral 2x week
FIN 1.25 mg(walgreens)-10/11
Biotin 5mg
Msm 2000mg
Ru58841 140 mg 4ml ethonal/pg mixture
 11/06/2011 03:41 PM
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here we go again.

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44yr old veteran and still NW2. Give your treatment reasonable time, monitor your results and do your own diligence. Many will respond differently to treatment regardless funded Pharma studies and peddlers that speak in absolutes...
 11/06/2011 03:48 PM
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Originally posted by: wakebdr32

here we go again.


Yah, I know, but according to studies fin can't make your hair worse off.

I'm just trying to be rational and go on dog3, decade2, Bryan, Jwm,greyman, etc

As well as many published studies on fin.

In other words I'm giving science a chance and what other posters tell me what I should do.

I'm going to try it for 15 months.

If it Infact causes what it has done to me in the past after giving it that long of a trial then ill be cussing the drug and have a good reason to because by then I would have given it a fair chance.

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Rogaine foam-day5%(all over top of scalp 2 capfulls worth)-9/09
Minox liquid 5%-night-3/11
1% nizoral 2x week
FIN 1.25 mg(walgreens)-10/11
Biotin 5mg
Msm 2000mg
Ru58841 140 mg 4ml ethonal/pg mixture
 11/06/2011 04:35 PM
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Originally posted by: irishpride86

Originally posted by: wakebdr32



here we go again.




Yah, I know, but according to studies fin can't make your hair worse off.



I'm just trying to be rational and go on dog3, decade2, Bryan, Jwm,greyman, etc



As well as many published studies on fin.



In other words I'm giving science a chance and what other posters tell me what I should do.



I'm going to try it for 15 months.



If it Infact causes what it has done to me in the past after giving it that long of a trial then ill be cussing the drug and have a good reason to because by then I would have given it a fair chance.


According to studies, there is no beneficial shedding period documented with reducing DHT which if anything should do the opposite. Growth stimulators, have been shown to cause a shed period OTOH.

Just to clear the air: Bryan has never taken Fin or Dut and other than JWM, most are pretty much newbs since their join date. You may not like it, but some HAVE responded very negatively with reducing DHT to very low levels well past what is on the literature. Wish you a luck and a different outcome from before but use your head, do your own testing within a reasonable time period (2yrs is BS tho) instead of being so easily persuaded by others that possibly have an ulterior motives or just base everything on their personal observation and manipulated "scientific stats" that don't add up if you open your eyes.

my $.02





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 11/06/2011 05:49 PM
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Jesus Christ ny scalp is immflamed, why. Propecia does not cause this or can, and I'm getting more acne and hair.shedding and sore scalp after being on fin for 2 weeks, reminds me of my fin usage in 2009.

But I must press on dogs3 and decade2 say its impossible for fin to harm me more then help, so I'm going to listen to them.










My hair last month before Propecia usage :









But I guess I'm crazy Propecia can't cause massive shedding and ance...



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Treatments
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Rogaine foam-day5%(all over top of scalp 2 capfulls worth)-9/09
Minox liquid 5%-night-3/11
1% nizoral 2x week
FIN 1.25 mg(walgreens)-10/11
Biotin 5mg
Msm 2000mg
Ru58841 140 mg 4ml ethonal/pg mixture
 11/06/2011 05:59 PM
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indian healing clay and raw african black soap will help u with acne.
 11/06/2011 06:07 PM
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Ok so Propecia causes massive shedding and acne in you as well? When did it get better?

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Rogaine foam-day5%(all over top of scalp 2 capfulls worth)-9/09
Minox liquid 5%-night-3/11
1% nizoral 2x week
FIN 1.25 mg(walgreens)-10/11
Biotin 5mg
Msm 2000mg
Ru58841 140 mg 4ml ethonal/pg mixture
 11/06/2011 06:38 PM
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Don't count the hairs you shed. It will drive you nuts. I have been on fin since 1997, with varying doses, and usually see 50-100 hairs everday when I shower. Don't worry, they will grow back. You also might want to think about easing into fin, such as starting with .25mg then working your way up to 1mg. That way you won't "shock" your hair follicles. Just my opinion. As for acne, use metrogel and sulfur cream/oitments. It worked for me.
 11/06/2011 06:43 PM
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Originally posted by: sgtgork

Don't count the hairs you shed. It will drive you nuts. I have been on fin since 1997, with varying doses, and usually see 50-100 hairs everday when I shower. Don't worry, they will grow back. You also might want to think about easing into fin, such as starting with .25mg then working your way up to 1mg. That way you won't "shock" your hair follicles. Just my opinion. As for acne, use metrogel and sulfur cream/oitments. It worked for me.


Mmmm, thanks for your input, did you have massive shedding while on fin... Can you tell me how your cycles are, for example how long fin makes you shed, then how it makes yours regrow...

Yours insight will help me press on....

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Treatments
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Rogaine foam-day5%(all over top of scalp 2 capfulls worth)-9/09
Minox liquid 5%-night-3/11
1% nizoral 2x week
FIN 1.25 mg(walgreens)-10/11
Biotin 5mg
Msm 2000mg
Ru58841 140 mg 4ml ethonal/pg mixture
 11/06/2011 07:03 PM
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Ive been on propecia for 20 months so a year and 8 months and before last month i was shedding 50-100 every single day i kept thinking to myself i have nothing to lose if i dont take the stuff i lose my hair if i do i might still lose mY hair or it might really slow this down, its proven that there is a chance unlike other hairloss stuff. But what was wierd is i was loosing that much hair everyday but still had hair dont get me wrong i had alot of bad hair days where it looked thin but for me to still have a good amount of hair after day after day of loosing a 100 hairs i knew something had to be working so its up to you but i would give it 2 years for sure. and my scalp has been sore kind of the whole time.

But man your attitude is horrible to have with hair loss bc things that help with hairloss take time and you freak out to quick about things
 11/06/2011 07:16 PM
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Jimmy thanks for your post man, it gives me hope..

So your saying in the end fin has helped you, even though it makes you shed

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Treatments
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Rogaine foam-day5%(all over top of scalp 2 capfulls worth)-9/09
Minox liquid 5%-night-3/11
1% nizoral 2x week
FIN 1.25 mg(walgreens)-10/11
Biotin 5mg
Msm 2000mg
Ru58841 140 mg 4ml ethonal/pg mixture
 11/06/2011 07:30 PM
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irish

Have you ever thought of trying to take fin with an estrogen blocker such as dim? I read of another guy on the other forum who has the same reaction to fin as us and his estrogen levels went really high along with his free t levels and he said dim helped him. It's counterintuitive but so is that reaction to fin. I don't much about dim but that guy thought it helped.
 11/06/2011 07:33 PM
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Originally posted by: Jiggaman

irish



Have you ever thought of trying to take fin with an estrogen blocker such as dim? I read of another guy on the other forum who has the same reaction to fin as us and his estrogen levels went really high along with his free t levels and he said dim helped him. It's counterintuitive but so is that reaction to fin. I don't much about dim but that guy thought it helped.


I could try it.... You see even though I've been off fin for 2 years my temples have gotten worse... I've been on ru and minox, but I think if I can get past this shedding while on fin then ill be ok...

You still on just liquid minox without ru or fin?



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Treatments
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Rogaine foam-day5%(all over top of scalp 2 capfulls worth)-9/09
Minox liquid 5%-night-3/11
1% nizoral 2x week
FIN 1.25 mg(walgreens)-10/11
Biotin 5mg
Msm 2000mg
Ru58841 140 mg 4ml ethonal/pg mixture
 11/06/2011 07:47 PM
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Yep my hair has really thickened back up and stabilized. I've been off Dut/fin/RU since Christmas. I still take zinc and peppermint also but don't know if they do anything. My hair has vastly improved over the last 11 months and i don't want to screw around by changing anything.
 11/06/2011 07:51 PM
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Damn Jigga, well my temples to worse while off fin, so I guess I may need fin after all...

Why are you on zinc what can that do? I have some zinc I may add it

I think minox, fin, ru, dim, zinc, biotin, topical Spiro should be powerful..

Ru, and Spiro will help topically to any raised t or e levels in my scalp and dim will help with it internally while taking fin

Thoughts

Thanks

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Treatments
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Rogaine foam-day5%(all over top of scalp 2 capfulls worth)-9/09
Minox liquid 5%-night-3/11
1% nizoral 2x week
FIN 1.25 mg(walgreens)-10/11
Biotin 5mg
Msm 2000mg
Ru58841 140 mg 4ml ethonal/pg mixture
 11/06/2011 07:57 PM
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Oh and jigga, which do you think is better liquid or foam.....

Thanks man

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Treatments
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Rogaine foam-day5%(all over top of scalp 2 capfulls worth)-9/09
Minox liquid 5%-night-3/11
1% nizoral 2x week
FIN 1.25 mg(walgreens)-10/11
Biotin 5mg
Msm 2000mg
Ru58841 140 mg 4ml ethonal/pg mixture
 11/06/2011 08:16 PM
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Zinc seemed to make my hair stand up and give it more volume so I have continued taking it for last 10 or 11 months. Could have been coincidence not sure. My hair has mostly grown back in the last year after the TE episodes while on the anti-androgens so Im keeping everything the same.

Topical spiro seems redundant if your taking RU other than that I'm not sure what else you can do. Research dim before trying it but there are lots of people on acne forums who say it helps. It is supposed to block both DHT and estrogen. The only reason i looked into it was the one dude who said it helped him after getting TE while on fin. I think his name was Declan or something like that if you want to look at his story.
 11/06/2011 08:26 PM
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I have seen his story, he's still doing bad( he's not on fin though) ... He updated recently ... But ill take DIM if it lowers dht and e.

Do you recommend liquid or foam...

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Treatments
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Rogaine foam-day5%(all over top of scalp 2 capfulls worth)-9/09
Minox liquid 5%-night-3/11
1% nizoral 2x week
FIN 1.25 mg(walgreens)-10/11
Biotin 5mg
Msm 2000mg
Ru58841 140 mg 4ml ethonal/pg mixture
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