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 11/11/2010 07:56 PM
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I just got an email from Kouting mentioning that they're selling this now. This is news to me, but maybe I'm just out of the loop. I've heard great things about CB-03-01, is anyone using it or have any insight into how effective it is? Currently using Kouting RU.

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 11/12/2010 05:38 AM
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wow...wonder how kouting know how to make this?

It has been shown to work in humans. It worked better than cyproterone acetate, shrunk sebaceous glands and also boasts anti-inflammatory qualities. It out performed retin-a in acne studies in the head-to-head test.

I have high hopes for this drug.

Do Kouting know what it is soluble in?

Also what are they charging?

I cant remember what percentage they used in the acne study, but it wasnt that high from what I remember, I think it was only like 1%?
 11/12/2010 06:55 AM
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This isn't the curcumin derivative, is it?
 11/12/2010 10:48 AM
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Originally posted by: Rogar6

This isn't the curcumin derivative, is it?


No.

What is the price ? That's the key parameter !!


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 11/12/2010 04:06 PM
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Really? All i got is an email saying they might start producing it. Can you copy and paste the email here? Sounds interesting.

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 11/15/2010 06:35 AM
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bump..are they selling it or thinking about it? How much is it?

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Recent email I got from Kane at Kouting.


Dear Bret,

RU58841 and ASC-J9 stop hair loss,minoxidil,finasteride,Dutasteride and CB-03-01 generate new growth.

ASC-J9 and CB-03-01 are very new compound,you can check the hairloss forum to get more information.

Regards,
Kane

----- Original Message -----

From: "Bret Murray"
To:
Cc:
Sent: 2010-11-4 23:29:16
Subject: Re: RU58841 & new hairloss chemicals

What do these new products do, do any of them stop hair loss and generate new growth?
The RU works great for stopping loss.




--- On Wed, 11/3/10, wrote:


From:
Subject: RU58841 & new hairloss chemicals
To: "Bret Murray"
Date: Wednesday, November 3, 2010, 9:04 AM

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How are you?

Our new batch of RU58841 is on hot sale. We`d like to know if you have interest.

By the way,we`d like to introduce you some new chemicals for hairloss.Details as below.Pls check.


Minoxidil

2,4-Diamino-6-piperidino-pyrimidine-3-oxide

CAS NO:38304-91-5

Appearance:white powder

Molecular Formula: C9H15N5O

Formula Weight: 209.25

Purity:99%min





Finasteride

N-(2-methyl-2-propyl)-3-oxo-4-aza-5alpha-androst-1-ene-17beta-carboxamide

CAS NO:98319-26-7

Appearance:white powder

Molecular Formula: C23H36N2O2

Formula Weight: 372.55

Purity:99%min





Dutasteride

(5alpha,17beta)-N-{2,5-Bis(trifluoromethyl)phenyl}-3-oxo-4-azaandrost-l-ene-17-carboxamide

CAS NO:164656-23-9

Appearance:white powder

Molecular Formula: C27H30F6N2O2

Formula Weight: 528.53

Purity:99%min





ASC-J9

Dimethyl Curcumin;

1,7-Bis-(3,4-dimethoxy-phenyl)-5-hydroxy-hepta-1,4,6-trien-3-one



CAS NO:917813-54-8

Appearancerange powder

Molecular Formula C23H24O6

Formula Weight 396.4

Melting Point:128-130

Purity:98%min





RU58841

4-(4,4-dimethyl-2,5-dioxo-3-(4-hydroxybutyl)-1-imidazolidinyl)-2-(trifluromethyl)-benzonitrile

CAS NO:154992-24-2

Appearance:white powder

Molecular Formula:C17H18F3N3O3

Formula Weight: 369.34

Purity:99%min





CB-03-01

Cortexolone 17alpha-propionate

CAS NO:19608-29-8

Purity:98%min



If you have any question,pls don`t hesitate to contact with me directly.
With best regards,
Kane MIN
Special Chemical Sales Team
Kouting Chemical Co.,Ltd.
Tel:0086-21-58116475 58116473
Fax:0086-21-61294103
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Web:www.koutingchina.com
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 11/15/2010 11:10 AM
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Originally posted by: sampsonojo

Recent email I got from Kane at Kouting.


Dear Bret,


RU58841 and ASC-J9 stop hair loss,minoxidil,finasteride,Dutasteride and CB-03-01 generate new growth.


The only growth stim there is minoxidil.

The rest are antiandrogens of one form of another. For instance fin and dut are 5ar Inhibitors, RU and CB are AR Antagonists, and ASC-J9 is an AR Degradation Enhancer.


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 11/15/2010 11:26 AM
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If u make a topical from that, u have a miracle product

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 11/15/2010 04:29 PM
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Any word on pricing?
 11/16/2010 04:04 AM
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sweeeet !!..these Kouting guys are a godsend..first they make super pure RU..now they even make CB 03-01!

http://www.cosmopharmaceutical...ress/pr2010/20101006/

CB is now at the stage where RU was left..after several animal studies and small scale human studies.
I guess that the big cost and wait is for now on..larger scale human studies and approval preparation which will take time..in the meantime we can try it out and once the real product is out switch to it.

I sent a mail to Kane asking for the price of CB..if this stuff is reasonnable I will order and try it out.. rotate it with RU



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FIN 98~04
DUT 04~08
DUT + Flutamide & Fluridil ~08
DUT + RU ~09
RU only (20mg to 400mg/d 09~11)
RU+Minox 11~15
RU 20 mg/d (in 6ml Neogenic)
Now:
Adenogen
CB 03-01 25mg/d in 6ml Neo
 11/16/2010 04:57 AM
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Arent you worried about the fact that they use iontophoresis? perhaps there were indications that a normal solution in ethanol did not penetrate sufficient.

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 11/16/2010 05:12 AM
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$500.00 / gram
 11/16/2010 05:47 AM
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500 bucks a gram is too expensive.

The CB studies used a 1% concentration.

1g = 100ml of 1% CB.

2ml per day would last you 50 days. Way too expensive.
 11/16/2010 05:59 AM
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yep just got the same reply..looks like I'll stick to RU then.
Might as well spray gold onto your hair



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FIN 98~04
DUT 04~08
DUT + Flutamide & Fluridil ~08
DUT + RU ~09
RU only (20mg to 400mg/d 09~11)
RU+Minox 11~15
RU 20 mg/d (in 6ml Neogenic)
Now:
Adenogen
CB 03-01 25mg/d in 6ml Neo
 11/16/2010 06:31 AM
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wow...that's not cheap..was expecting price similar to RU...

Any discount if you buy more than 1 gram?

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 11/16/2010 06:38 AM
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If priced reasonably, which would you guys prefer - asc-j9 or CB?
 11/16/2010 06:45 AM
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IF they both work as anticipated, then I would go for ASC-J9 since it is supposed to destroy the androgen receptor..but would like to try both!

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 11/16/2010 07:01 AM
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Did anyone ever get a price on ASC-J9?
 11/16/2010 08:19 AM
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yes

100mg - $500
500mg - $1000
$50 for shipping

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