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Created On: 02/01/2004 01:31 PM
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 02/01/2004 01:31 PM
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Like i posted in another thread, I have been using DMSO for a while now and my eyes would sometimes get all reddish for a couple of days. I thought my contact where doing this so i never paid more attention to it. But 2 days ago, my eyes turn to a nasty red and it got me really worried since a noticed a little bump also IN my eye. I went to the doctor the next day. He examined me and told me that my eyes where badly damaged from what seemed to be chemical burn. Some tiny blood vessels in my eyes add exploded or where abnormaly big and flooded with blood which he told me that something was dead wrong.

The bump in my eye was, as he said, probably caused by direct contact with chemicals. But I wash my hands each time i apply the DMSO. But then i though that sometimes, during the day, you scratch your head....and then could also sratch the corner of your eye which might have triggered the effect. But direct contact was not the cause of it all since the vessels reacted in a way like toxins where present in my body. Without me telling him anything he asked me if i had been in contact with chemicals recently. If you put aside the washing liquid, no. Exept DMSO.

I know many of you are sold on DMSO, i thought it was a good product to, but just to warn you that the road is not paved in gold and you must be carefull as they might just be potent chemicals in yours to.

I was using Nature's gift like many people in here. Anyways, just thought i'd share my nasty experience with you all so you can be carefull with the way, or amount you are applying.

For the first time ever since i bought hairloss product i was actually really scared. Loosing my libido is one thing....loosing my sight is a different story.
 02/01/2004 01:54 PM
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TheCure, I too have just noticed a significant bump in my left eye. I think we're playing with fire here. What was the doctors prognosis?
This puts an end to my DMSO experiment. Thanks for posting.
 02/01/2004 01:54 PM
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Hope your eyes recover ok pal.
 02/01/2004 01:55 PM
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Are you going to fully recover or what? Did you tell the doctor that you'd been using DMSO as a topical? Sorry to hear this man.
 02/01/2004 01:57 PM
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Is the damage permanent in any way? Is the bump size/redness decreasing now that you have stopped? Good luck, bud.
 02/01/2004 02:06 PM
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I have trouble putting his prognosis in english since it's not my first language but i tried the best i could in my first post.

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I told him after that i was applying DMSO on my head as an agent to promote hair growth. He said that he'd heard of this stuff but wasn't really familiared with it. He made a call and came back telling me it was used as a solvent for industrial purposes and that i should have never played with it in the first place. I felt like a fool and i think he noticed. He then told me that trying things out often brings people to see him with strange problems. He added that specialists are there for one reason and prescription also. Anyways, he made it clear that applying more DMSO on my head could lead to blindness since my eyes where in pretty bad shape.


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I'm happy to see that i'm not the only one having these type of problems since everybody just kept saying how great this stuff is. You should stop it to like you said if you don't want to get to my point where i have trouble keeping my eyes open from the burning sensation.
 02/01/2004 02:11 PM
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Eternal Hope :

It was hard for him to have a clear view of my eyes since they are really really red. I am suppose to see him tomorrow to see if thing are a bit better. I sure hope that there is nothing to serious. But aside from the burning sensation and the bump, i still can see, so that's a good start.
 02/01/2004 02:19 PM
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Sorry to hear that TheCure. Did the doctor prescribe you anything for your eye or recommend something for it?
 02/01/2004 02:21 PM
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not good

not good at all
 02/01/2004 02:21 PM
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TheCure, thanks for posting your experience. I won’t stop applying DMSO yet but will certainly keep it in mind and look out for any telltale signs. One reservation I have is that people have been using this stuff since the 60’s and I haven’t read of any such result. Tests carried out on monkeys did result in eye problems but this is after they subjected their eyes to high levels of DSMO for a prolonged period. Are you sure DMSO could be the only explanation? I just find it strange that this is the first I’ve heard of it’s kind despite all the weird and whacky things people have done with the stuff. Anyhow, I will still take your report seriously and proceed with more caution, especially also being a contact lens wearer.
 02/01/2004 02:28 PM
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He put some drops in my eyes that are used when you have chemicals in your eyes. I asked him for something else that could take the burning off and the redness to because people at work keep telling me i should stop smoking pot before coming to work becaused of all the redness. He added that he didn't want to give me anything more since he wasn't to sure of the reaction it might cause. So basically i'm hanging in there trying to get through the day keeping the panic as low as possible under the circomstances.
 02/01/2004 02:36 PM
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damn it

should i drop the oz brew and start the 15% minox i have lying around?

thanks
 02/01/2004 02:39 PM
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Jambad :

I know people have been using it for many years. But i'm not sure people have been applying it many times daily for months on. I to have tried to read up on possible explanation.

I work in an office and deal with papers and telephones everyday, so i don't come across any toxic product.....never. I've been seeing a lot of different kind of DMSO also. Maybe that might be the reason since those using it for long periods of time took the medical one with all the chemicals removed. Nature's gift is not a medical one from what i've heard and it's clearly written on .the bottle that it should be used as a solvent only.

I'm not saying DMSO is all wrong, but you and all the other users ( and i will surely not consider myself one ) should look out for the real clean stuff.
 02/01/2004 02:40 PM
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QUESTIONS

TheCure, please tell us the exact formula. Did it include minoxidil? If so, how much is in the solution and what is the strength - 2%, 5%, etc. Where were you applying it on your head and how many times per day?

This is very serious, but we need more information before going on a full-blown freakout. It might have been the combination of Minox and DMSO that caused the problem instead of DMSO alone.

Edited: 02/01/2004 at 02:44 PM by avary3
 02/01/2004 02:42 PM
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I don't know jambap I think we may have more people talking about problems with dmso use now that we have a bunch of people gathered together monitering their situation with it's use and then posting testiminials. it's difficult to find negative effects when looking up information on something that has reallynot been used that frequently. seriously, most of the information people post here about dmso is form sites that sell the product, i know the "it's been used since the 60's" thing these dmso sale sites boast, but it doesnt seem like many people really know what they're dealing with or the effects that it will have on them after a while.
the only reason we can say "it only hurt animals in high doses it's okay to use" is because we don't have documented results from regular users until now, on here...
I was on the fence about this stuff, think I'll just send my order back when I get it and wait.
 02/01/2004 02:45 PM
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should i drop the oz brew and start the 15% minox i have lying around?


your hopeless!
 02/01/2004 02:46 PM
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lizzard

this is serious man - its ot like i would stop because of a lack of results or scalp irritation

i think you need to be realistic
 02/01/2004 02:47 PM
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posted this in another thread you've probably seen it if you've been reading the dmso posts:

Toxic effects to the lens of the eye were reported in studies involving the use of DMSO in dogs, rabbits, and pigs, although no such effects have been noted in studies with human subjects (45). The safety of prolonged use of DMSO in humans has not been established. http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Gallery/6412/DMSO.htm

Clinical trials with DMSO were halted due to questions about its safety, especially with regard to its ability to affect the eye. http://www.cancer.org/docroot/ETO/content/ETO_5_3X_DMSO.asp?sitearea=ETO
 02/01/2004 03:04 PM
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here are more scientitific studies on dmso - i think it means they found that if you increase the concentration of DMSO it led to lesions on the rabbits' eyes - bad stuff...


http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=12049486&dopt=Abstract


http://www.aapspharmsci.org/view.asp?art=ps040102&pdf=yes
 02/01/2004 03:12 PM
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I really don't want to start a panic, this is not my point.

I just think people should be carefull with the kind of DMSO they are using. The cheaper brand that we tend to use might not be clean from different chemicals.

I was not using DMSO along with minox....i was using it on it's own to see if it had any growing properties. I used it 2-3 times daily all over the scalp.
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