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Created On: 12/08/2003 08:27 AM
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 12/08/2003 08:27 AM
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Interesting study that I came across:

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Vegetables such as broccoli, Brussels sprouts, kale, and cauliflower produce a chemical when being digested that inhibits the action of dihydrotestosterone (DHT). Leonard Bjeldanes, professor of nutritional science at UC Berkeley, and Gary Firestone, professor of molecular biology at the same institution, have been researching the anti-cancer properties of plant chemicals (phytochemicals). They found that vegetables such as broccoli and Brussels sprouts are rich in an indole called I3C. An indole is a decomposition product of proteins. The body converts this indole into diindolylmethane or simply DIM during digestion.

Further research confirmed that this DIM inhibits the action of DHT. It does this by binding to the same receptors within the cell that DHT uses. DHT, as I’m sure most visitors to this site are aware of, is involved in male pattern baldness. The research that Bjeldanes and Firestone are doing is mostly centered on prostate cancer and the proliferation of cancer cells, but Dr. Bjeldanes in an email to me wrote that he is now requesting funding to do research on male pattern baldness.

The reason that I stress the importance of getting nutrients from real food instead of from pills is that there are many unidentified nutritional factors in food, especially in fruits and vegetables. These phytochemicals that one doesn’t get in pills may provide a great health benefit.

There is nothing conclusive yet in the research of Bjeldanes and Firestone indicating that broccoli and other cruciferous vegetables will benefit the hair follicles, but I loaded up on broccoli at the market today just in case. By the way, the best way to cook broccoli and other vegetables is to steam them. Boiling vegetables destroys over half the nutrients; steaming destroys hardly any.

 12/08/2003 08:36 AM
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BTW, IC3 is available as a supplement: Here's a place I found that sells it:

http://www.health-marketplace.com/Indole-3-Carbinol.htm
 12/08/2003 08:43 AM
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Oops - I meant I3C, not IC3
 12/08/2003 09:46 AM
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I have eaten tons of brocolli - both raw and cooked and it has done absolutely nothing for my hairloss.

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 12/08/2003 11:33 AM
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Will a broccoli topical mantain my imaginary norwood 0?
 12/08/2003 11:42 AM
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yes but you have to glue the broccoli stalks to your thinning areas. This thickens up the area and gives the appearance of incredible growth on your head.
 12/08/2003 12:16 PM
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I have started taking DIM, but not for the inhibition of DHT. It is a great supplement to normalize estrogen levels which may get elevated in those of us taking finasteride. If it also helps my hair that would be great.
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Ok, I expected people to make fun of this post; whatever.

Fact is that IC3 shows great potential in preventing cancer, especially hormone related cancers such as prostate/breast cancer.

Prostate cancer is a hormone dependent cancer. DHT is more active and more potent in prostate cancer developement.

So you can draw the conclusion that IC3 has a positive effect on DHT (I belive the mechanism by which is works is the prevention of DHT binding to receptor sites). You can thereby conclude that IC3 could be of some benefit to those suffering from MPB.

Is eating brocolli going to help your hairloss? I doubt it. The amount of IC3 obtained from the vegtables probably wouldn't be enough to be of significant value.

Will taking the IC3 supplement help? Maybe. Worth a shot in my opinion.
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yes but you have to glue the broccoli stalks to your thinning areas.

Bango,
Doesn't this give you the "Fro" look?? Is it OK to use asparagus instead??


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 12/08/2003 01:50 PM
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Will a broccoli topical mantain my imaginary norwood 0?


No, but it may help you maintain your ACTUAL NW3.
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You would have to eat over a pound of broccolli a day to see any of the benefits you mentioned. That is why I am taking DIM. By the way...DIM is a metabloite of I3C ....is less expensive....you take half the does...and it works better.
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Originally posted by: Lizzad
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<hr>Will a broccoli topical mantain my imaginary norwood 0?<hr></blockquote>

No, but it may help you maintain your ACTUAL NW3.


Just because you work for Kirkland and ya have nooo pics! Lol.
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