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Topic Title: Follow My Major Repair
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Created On: 12/02/2009 10:43 AM
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 Follow My Major Repair   - topcat - 12/02/2009 10:43 AM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - Sofarsogood - 12/02/2009 12:10 PM  
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 Follow My Major Repair   - Farrel - 01/18/2010 07:49 PM  
 Pictures posted on behalf of patient.Follow My Major Repair   - SL - 01/20/2010 01:26 AM  
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 Follow My Major Repair   - Sofarsogood - 01/21/2010 02:03 PM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - topcat - 02/11/2010 06:18 AM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - bigmac - 02/18/2010 01:10 PM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - mintyfresh - 02/18/2010 01:27 PM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - topcat - 02/19/2010 04:50 AM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - topcat - 02/19/2010 08:25 AM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - Farrel - 07/09/2010 02:14 AM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - topcat - 07/09/2010 05:30 AM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - Farrel - 08/16/2010 09:44 PM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - topcat - 08/17/2010 06:56 AM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - RichLocks - 08/17/2010 08:11 AM  
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 Follow My Major Repair   - Gillenator - 08/20/2010 02:48 PM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - Farrel - 09/20/2010 01:39 AM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - topcat - 09/20/2010 06:54 AM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - Hair today,Gone tomorrow - 09/20/2010 01:24 PM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - topcat - 09/20/2010 02:18 PM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - Farrel - 11/16/2010 02:26 AM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - VinDieselWannabe - 08/18/2010 05:01 PM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - topcat - 08/19/2010 06:01 AM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - RichLocks - 08/19/2010 07:29 AM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - topcat - 08/19/2010 12:49 PM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - chonger - 11/16/2010 04:43 AM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - topcat - 11/16/2010 06:49 AM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - fjm96 - 11/16/2010 04:59 PM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - topcat - 11/16/2010 07:49 PM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - topcat - 11/17/2010 08:39 AM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - Farrel - 11/19/2010 09:42 PM  
 2nd procedure scheduled for Jan. 14   - topcat - 01/09/2011 10:12 AM  
 2nd procedure scheduled for Jan. 14   - topcat - 01/20/2011 02:09 AM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - topcat - 02/11/2011 06:31 PM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - topcat - 02/11/2011 06:39 PM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - topcat - 02/11/2011 06:41 PM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - topcat - 02/11/2011 06:43 PM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - topcat - 02/11/2011 06:55 PM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - topcat - 02/11/2011 07:02 PM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - topcat - 02/12/2011 04:55 AM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - Skywalker - 02/12/2011 05:08 PM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - topcat - 03/16/2011 10:55 AM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - topcat - 03/16/2011 05:34 PM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - topcat - 04/19/2011 01:19 PM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - SL - 04/26/2011 10:39 AM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - topcat - 05/15/2011 09:16 AM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - topcat - 06/13/2011 10:04 AM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - TheTKDKid - 06/13/2011 01:07 PM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - topcat - 06/16/2011 06:02 AM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - bullitnut - 07/10/2011 04:15 PM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - topcat - 07/10/2011 05:01 PM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - topcat - 07/13/2011 06:51 PM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - topcat - 07/20/2011 04:52 PM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - Farrel - 07/20/2011 05:01 PM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - topcat - 07/20/2011 05:15 PM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - VinDieselWannabe - 07/20/2011 09:25 PM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - ssolriah - 07/20/2011 10:30 PM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - topcat - 07/21/2011 05:47 AM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - topcat - 07/21/2011 05:49 AM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - Sofarsogood - 07/21/2011 12:25 PM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - Skywalker - 07/21/2011 12:37 PM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - topcat - 07/22/2011 01:55 PM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - still fightin thru - 07/23/2011 12:48 AM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - topcat - 07/23/2011 03:53 PM  
 beard donor 6 months after 2nd procedure   - topcat - 07/28/2011 06:43 AM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - SL - 07/29/2011 12:56 PM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - topcat - 07/30/2011 06:00 AM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - fuzzy - 08/03/2011 09:23 AM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - topcat - 08/13/2011 01:32 PM  
 Follow My Major Repair Chest donor 19 months   - topcat - 09/05/2011 07:50 AM  
 Follow My Major Repair Chest donor 19 months   - SL - 09/06/2011 02:43 AM  
 2nd procedure 8 month update   - topcat - 09/21/2011 09:24 AM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - ssolriah - 09/21/2011 10:12 PM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - topcat - 09/22/2011 06:04 AM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - topcat - 09/25/2011 10:21 AM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - Rainman - 09/26/2011 01:54 PM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - topcat - 10/07/2011 09:20 PM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - ThinCity - 10/08/2011 06:48 AM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - topcat - 10/08/2011 07:23 AM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - pvtpoint2000 - 10/09/2011 06:20 AM  
 PFollow My Major Repair   - topcat - 10/09/2011 01:42 PM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - topcat - 10/09/2011 01:43 PM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - topcat - 10/14/2011 02:13 PM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - topcat - 11/17/2011 02:33 PM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - jeremiah - 11/17/2011 06:05 PM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - topcat - 11/17/2011 07:00 PM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - topcat - 12/18/2011 06:39 AM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - topcat - 01/21/2012 09:01 AM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - topcat - 04/11/2012 03:15 PM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - topcat - 04/12/2012 06:49 AM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - 2020_2 - 04/12/2012 11:58 AM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - poppy - 04/12/2012 01:06 PM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - topcat - 04/12/2012 01:27 PM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - topcat - 04/13/2012 02:44 AM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - 2020_2 - 04/12/2012 01:26 PM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - fjm96 - 04/13/2012 10:50 AM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - topcat - 04/14/2012 03:08 AM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - topcat - 05/12/2012 07:09 AM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - topcat - 05/15/2012 04:45 PM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - tommo - 05/17/2012 02:04 AM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - topcat - 05/17/2012 04:44 AM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - topcat - 05/18/2012 12:33 PM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - tommo - 05/19/2012 01:40 AM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - topcat - 05/19/2012 02:10 PM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - tommo - 05/20/2012 01:25 AM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - topcat - 10/31/2012 01:34 PM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - topcat - 11/01/2012 05:34 AM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - northeastguy - 11/04/2012 08:52 PM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - topcat - 11/05/2012 12:35 AM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - Farrel - 11/05/2012 02:48 AM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - Science - 11/05/2012 02:41 PM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - 29mdofsd - 11/05/2012 02:44 PM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - topcat - 11/05/2012 03:58 PM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - topcat - 11/06/2012 06:29 AM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - topcat - 11/06/2012 11:15 AM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - topcat - 11/07/2012 06:18 AM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - samsamsam016_88 - 11/07/2012 06:49 AM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - topcat - 11/07/2012 07:10 AM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - samsamsam016_88 - 11/07/2012 09:24 AM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - topcat - 11/07/2012 01:13 PM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - topcat - 11/08/2012 07:30 AM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - mattj - 11/09/2012 12:27 PM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - topcat - 11/09/2012 12:42 PM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - topcat - 11/10/2012 06:07 PM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - topcat - 11/14/2012 02:58 PM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - topcat - 11/22/2012 06:29 AM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - baldielocks - 11/24/2012 07:09 AM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - topcat - 11/24/2012 11:40 AM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - VinDieselWannabe - 11/24/2012 07:30 PM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - topcat - 11/24/2012 08:55 PM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - topcat - 12/07/2012 06:52 PM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - topcat - 12/12/2012 09:58 AM  
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 Follow My Major Repair   - topcat - 01/16/2013 12:22 PM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - topcat - 01/18/2013 08:51 AM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - northeastguy - 01/20/2013 02:11 PM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - topcat - 01/20/2013 05:24 PM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - northeastguy - 01/20/2013 07:12 PM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - topcat - 01/21/2013 05:56 AM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - topcat - 02/14/2013 09:41 AM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - SL - 02/15/2013 10:12 AM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - topcat - 02/15/2013 02:31 PM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - topcat - 03/04/2013 09:43 AM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - SL - 03/04/2013 11:34 AM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - mattj - 03/04/2013 02:16 PM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - topcat - 03/04/2013 03:10 PM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - topcat - 04/05/2013 10:34 AM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - topcat - 04/07/2013 09:33 AM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - topcat - 04/11/2013 07:08 AM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - VinDieselWannabe - 04/11/2013 07:26 AM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - jotronic - 04/11/2013 09:45 AM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - topcat - 04/11/2013 02:29 PM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - Brix - 04/11/2013 06:02 PM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - VinDieselWannabe - 04/12/2013 06:45 AM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - baldielocks - 04/12/2013 05:32 PM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - topcat - 04/13/2013 04:51 AM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - KO - 04/13/2013 11:22 AM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - topcat - 04/13/2013 04:12 PM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - topcat - 05/08/2013 10:57 AM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - topcat - 05/08/2013 11:18 AM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - mattj - 05/09/2013 03:47 AM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - topcat - 05/09/2013 06:33 AM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - tommo - 05/18/2013 11:06 PM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - topcat - 05/19/2013 04:25 PM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - tommo - 05/21/2013 05:12 AM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - topcat - 05/21/2013 08:16 AM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - topcat - 05/21/2013 11:52 AM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - topcat - 05/21/2013 05:19 PM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - topcat - 05/25/2013 06:56 AM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - topcat - 06/05/2013 10:07 AM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - topcat - 06/08/2013 01:14 PM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - mattj - 05/20/2013 03:20 AM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - topcat - 05/20/2013 07:03 PM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - topcat - 05/21/2013 04:58 AM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - tommo - 06/22/2013 05:09 PM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - topcat - 06/23/2013 10:52 AM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - StevieR - 07/04/2013 08:54 PM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - topcat - 07/05/2013 05:21 AM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - topcat - 07/05/2013 09:54 AM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - topcat - 07/05/2013 03:46 PM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - StevieR - 07/07/2013 01:01 PM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - topcat - 07/15/2013 08:19 AM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - topcat - 07/15/2013 03:26 PM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - topcat - 08/03/2013 12:54 AM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - scamwhacker - 08/04/2013 07:22 PM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - BCKINTHEWATR - 08/09/2013 04:58 AM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - topcat - 08/09/2013 12:34 PM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - northeastguy - 08/09/2013 05:59 PM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - topcat - 08/10/2013 02:09 AM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - MelB - 08/14/2013 08:31 AM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - topcat - 08/14/2013 12:03 PM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - BCKINTHEWATR - 08/14/2013 12:57 PM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - topcat - 08/15/2013 04:05 AM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - BCKINTHEWATR - 08/15/2013 04:14 AM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - topcat - 08/15/2013 07:19 AM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - BCKINTHEWATR - 08/15/2013 02:46 PM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - topcat - 08/17/2013 07:44 AM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - BCKINTHEWATR - 08/17/2013 08:33 AM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - topcat - 08/17/2013 10:14 AM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - BCKINTHEWATR - 08/20/2013 06:09 PM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - topcat - 08/21/2013 04:51 AM  
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 Follow My Major Repair   - BCKINTHEWATR - 08/23/2013 02:18 PM  
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 Follow My Major Repair   - topcat - 08/24/2013 01:48 PM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - BCKINTHEWATR - 08/26/2013 05:07 PM  
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 Follow My Major Repair   - BCKINTHEWATR - 08/27/2013 12:30 PM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - topcat - 08/27/2013 01:17 PM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - BCKINTHEWATR - 08/27/2013 02:04 PM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - topcat - 08/27/2013 03:10 PM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - BCKINTHEWATR - 08/29/2013 05:14 PM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - topcat - 08/30/2013 05:10 AM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - topcat - 08/30/2013 08:37 AM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - topcat - 09/09/2013 02:05 PM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - VinDieselWannabe - 09/09/2013 08:25 PM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - topcat - 09/09/2013 08:48 PM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - VinDieselWannabe - 09/09/2013 10:47 PM  
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 Follow My Major Repair   - Spidey - 09/10/2013 11:12 AM  
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 Follow My Major Repair   - VinDieselWannabe - 09/21/2013 05:45 AM  
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 Follow My Major Repair   - baldielocks - 11/17/2013 01:17 PM  
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 Follow My Major Repair   - topcat - 11/17/2013 03:07 PM  
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 Follow My Major Repair   - topcat - 12/11/2013 11:44 AM  
 Follow My Major Repair   - Kreuzer - 12/20/2013 09:41 AM  
 deleted by poster due to positive discussions with surgeon   - DanielA - 12/31/2013 02:38 AM  
 deleted by poster due to positive discussions with surgeon   - topcat - 01/09/2014 01:14 PM  
 Follow my major repair   - topcat - 02/11/2014 04:03 PM  
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 Follow My Major Repair   - JoeTillman - 08/07/2014 07:03 PM  
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On January 11, 2010 I am scheduled to start my journey towards an attempted repair using the fue method of hair transplantation. I have been graciously offered pro bono work by the BHR clinic in Brussels, Belgium. I will also be testing body and beard hair at the same time. Since I am very limited as far as available scalp donor hair I am hoping body and beard hair can help greatly in improving my present situation.

I have been on the forums for well over 10 years. After being what I have been through, choosing a doctor and clinic is probably one of the most difficult choices I have ever had to make. Even with my present condition, it's been easier to do just nothing, then to take the chance and make the wrong choice one more time.

My first choice would be not to have to travel. It's difficult enough to have to deal with this situation in daily life. Having to go through airports and security while having had surgery on my head is going to be quite an ordeal. I wish that I could go to someone local or at least someone here in the USA. But I have to be extremely cautious in my choice. I need a clinic that is highly experienced in fue. They also have to have extensive experience in body and beard hair. A bonus would be that the doctor has a natural artistic talent. Dr. Bisanga happens to be highly gifted in this area, one only need view his work to agree. But most important of all, the doctor and clinic need to be caring, compassionate and have my best interests at heart. Over the last 10 years I have finally narrowed down my choice to one clinic, the BHR clinic in Belgium. The BHR clinic meets each and everyone of these points.

I came to this conclusion about 1 year ago. Even though I knew it was the only clinic that I really felt comfortable with, I was still hesitant in taking the leap. Read my blog and view my pictures and I think you can understand why. It was only recently when the pro bono offer was made to forum members that I thought I really need to get this process started and maybe this offer was my one chance in a lifetime.

There are so many individuals out there that are in need of repair I wasn't sure that I would even have a hope of winning, but still I had to at least try. Well you can imagine my elation when I found out I had gotten the most votes from the members of hairlossexperiences.com and I was chosen to have the repair work done for free. The clinic phoned me that same night and congratulated me. I was so excited I could hardly believe it.

The voting was so close that the BHR clinic offered the next to two runners up to also have pro bono work done. What does this tell you about this clinic? It's the same conclusion I came to 1 year ago when I first spoke to Phil B over at BHR. I had already consulted with at least a dozen clinics here in the USA and abroad. I have spoken to at least a dozen repair patients that have had work done by other doctors. It was only after I spoke to Phil along with seeing the artistry of Dr. Bisanga's work that I knew I had found what I was looking for in a clinic.

My expectations are realistic. More then likely I will always be forced to use a concealer until HM or something similar comes along. My main goal is to not make my situation worse then it already is at this point. I don't expect the BHR clinic to perform magic. But I do know that they are caring and they will do their best to help me.

I am hoping I have enough scalp donor on the sides of my head, especially near the top where it was pulled up from the scalp lifts to make a difference. My main concern is the frontal 1/3 approximately 1-2 cm behind the hair line. If body hair works, I would love to soften up the hairline sometime in the future. If beard hair is a viable source, then I would like to work my way progressively back towards the crown and maybe work on that vertical scar. The strips scars that run horizontal are the least of my concerns. I will go with Dr Bisanga's recommendations, he is the expert, and this is how it should be. A patient should feel comfortable enough to say the doctor is an expert, he has my best interest at heart, and I feel complete confidence in letting him make the right decisions.

If you are wondering if I am nervous the answer is of course I'm nervous. My whole experience with hair transplantation has taken a very heavy toll on my life. This is only something another repair patient can understand. I have spoken personally to many of the repair patients you have seen post on the boards over the years. It always feels good to have the support of others that are in a similar situation. Sometimes we can even laugh at what we have to go through in daily life, but sometimes it's also a reminder of the personal emotional pain we have had to endure. It can completely change you as a person.

Well I have my fingers crossed and I am hoping for the best. I will keep all the forum members informed with both pictures and posts so that you can see my progress. It's the only way for others to learn, and make informed decisions.

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Best of luck Topcat!
I'm, sure everyone here wishes you the best possible repair journey.

Hoping you find some hairpeace in 2010.
You certainly deserve it.

I have a feeling everything will work out well for you.

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Good luck Topcat. You sound like a strong person and that has helped you through a brutal ordeal. Stay strong and remember at this point things should get better. All the best.
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I too was impressed with Dr. Bisanga and Philb, best of luck Topcat.

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Hey Cat...you know I'm pulling for you buddy!!!!!! Can't wait to see the great results

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Good luck man, I'll admit I'm glad all three of you guys were chosen, I voted for the chap named Zion as he has the biggest challenge facing him and am looking forward to following all three of your repairs.

I have to always wonder, who is the ultimate judge of success? It will always be ourselves. I really think you will find that desired result. I think the odds are very favorable

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Good luck Topcat,also cheers Wylie appreciate it..
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I have a feeling your going to love the results...Good luck.

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I just got back today, so hopefully I will post pictures this week. It was such a great experience and I have so many good things to say that I need a few days. It's only been 5 days since the surgery and it's just about completely healed. I am truly amazed.

I had my first ht about 25 years ago and I have been posting on the forums for well over 10 years. This is the most honest and ethical clinic that I have ever come across.

Dr. Bisanga is a master at what he does. This is not false praise and I don't say these words lightly. We have all seen people in our lives that were truly masters at what they do. Through constant repetition and natural talent they make the difficult appear easy. That is Dr. Bisanga a true master.

Phillip is one of the most honest and ethical people I have ever met in this business. Anyone that doesn't take the time to seek his counsel is really missing a valuable opportunity to make a better decision. Regardless of weather you choose BHR or not, I would encourage anyone considering a ht to learn as much as you can from highly knowledgeable person.

I viewed Stephen's work of over 7000 fue's. It is absolutely impossible to tell he has had any work done. Either in the recipient area or the donor area. He is also one of the nicest people you will ever meet.

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Congrats Topcat. I can't wait to see your pics.

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My experience at the BHR clinic in Brussels was more then I could have ever hoped it would be. The clinic is both honest and open and lays the truth right on the table for all to see. Sometimes the truth might not be what we want to hear, but it is the truth. The fact is you need the truth in order to make an educated and informed decision.

I have been hoping to have some type of repair work done for the last 10 years, but I have been frozen with fear in what I have seen over this time. Some will assume I am biased, after all this was a pro bono offer that I received from BHR. In all honesty if I were given this same offer by some of the other clinics I have consulted with, I would have had to decline. I have just seen too many red flags to ever feel comfortable. I simply could not afford to make a mistake and be wrong. I needed only the absolute best clinic and doctor in the world to perform this work. I could not let distance be a roadblock. In all sincerity I could not give false praise and cause another human to go through what I and other victims have gone through.

I have personally spoken to many of the repair patients we have all seen. To this day they are still portrayed as success cases. Many of them in reality are very disappointed in both their results and the treatment they received. They hide in the shadows and are afraid to reveal the truth for too many reasons that others here would have a hard time understanding. Being repeatedly taken advantage of and being victimized is only something another victim can truly understand. It gives one a sense of shame that they carry around for a lifetime.

Over the years I have seen hideous body scarring, doctors with God like attitudes, clinics knowingly using deceptive advertising where their showcase results actually failed in the long run, clinics with little to no fue experience, hairlines meant for a 12 year old boy with little regard for future needs, forums that deleted threads that didn't suit their bottom line, doctors that cancelled consultations at the drop of the hat with little regard for the prospective patient and clinics that actually used pictures of results that were not their own. These are not things I saw 25 years ago when I got butchered, but they are going on today as I write. To believe that people are not still being victimized is naïve, but I can also understand how easy it is to be deceived.

Dealing with hair loss can be both uncomfortable and embarrassing. Being disfigured by a bad hair transplant can be 100 times worse. The clinics and forums have a moral and ethical obligation not to mislead. But unfortunately when there are substantial amounts of money involved, greed rears it's ugly head. One only needs to look at the news headlines the last few years. It goes on in almost every industry, including the practice of medicine. It very easy to take advantage of someone who has hope, it's the easy road. Couple that with the highest risk takers out there, males in the 18-29 age group. One can then see how lucrative the hair transplant business can be. BHR takes the road less traveled, the high road and in the end I think it's just a matter of time before this becomes evident to others.

Dr. Bisanga has the highest degree of ethics, because that is who he is as person. As I said before, he is an absolute master at what he does. This is a skill that can only be honed from years of hard work and repetition, along with being gifted with a natural ability. It's no wonder that other doctors seek to be trained by him and learn the secret to his skill. But this skill is simply not something that can be acquired in a few weeks or months, but takes years. Repetition is the mother of skill and it's only with time that it can be achieved. Dr. Bisanga will not sacrifice his ethics for a little more profit. He lives by the Hippocratic oath and he will do no harm, nor will he be involved with others that potentially might do harm.

Of course I have seen other clinics that use drills, or new mechanical type extracting devices. But I have also seen too many unproven techniques and therapies over the years that didn't quite pan out and are easily forgotten along with their victims. I can't afford the luxury of being a test patient or a victim once again. I needed to have something that has had proven results over the long term. Sure these new ways of extracting grafts might lower costs, but I will leave that for others to experience and wish you all the best in the experiment. I have experimented enough when I was younger and no longer have the will nor the intestinal fortitude to test the waters. I like to think that I have done my share and helped pave the way for the advancement of hair transplants. But it has come at a tremendous personal cost, both financially and emotionally.

I never imagined in my wildest dreams that I would be traveling to Europe to have my repair work done. It just never occurred to me that the solution to my predicament would be anywhere except what I thought to be the greatest country in the world, the United States of America. I always felt in the area of medicine, the USA was the most advanced and compassionate. Well it took a clinic and a great doctor on the other side of the world to change my view.

When I got to the hotel in Brussels I will admit I was starting to feel a little doubtful. All these terrible feelings started to come back to me from my first ht 25 years ago. I stayed in a hotel all alone after that procedure and was anxiety ridden by what I had done. That one mistake 25 years ago was life altering for me. It's only something another victim of a bad hair transplant can understand. I asked myself what was I doing here in Brussels, and thought maybe I was making just another mistake. It turns out this was one of the best decisions I could have ever made. I am truly ecstatic with what Dr. Bisanga has done for me. The clinic and the staff went well beyond my expectations and my stay in Brussels was very enjoyable.

Dr. Bisanga was able to extract a total of 828 grafts. 490 scalp, 238 beard, and 100 chest fue's. I never even thought about doing that many body and beard extractions. I thought about doing only 10 each before I left the USA, I was just too uncertain about potential scarring. But after meeting and speaking with Dr. Bisanga I felt very comfortable leaving my fate in his hands. I was that impressed by both his character and ability.

Well I am thrilled to say that at this point there are absolutely no signs that any surgery was even performed. Dr Bisanga doesn't need machines to extract fue's, he is literally a machine himself. I say this with no exaggeration, he extracts fue's with the greatest of ease. The healing has been amazing and is still hard to believe. I actually went out to eat at a local restaurant the very next day. It was unnoticeable that quickly even with over 200 beard hair extractions. I have seen plenty of pictures of body hair extractions, and the results were never this good. The donor areas always seemed still quite red even a month later. It's hard to see the extractions from the chest area already, and it's only day 6.

Philip at BHR is an incredible source of knowledge and information on the ht business. I encourage each and every person who is considering surgery to do your self a favor and tap into this base of knowledge. He is happy to share and help others. Regardless of if you use the services of BHR or not, you will be armed with knowledge and be able to make a better decision. Phillip is a very good-hearted and kind person. After speaking with him I got the impression that he is equally disgusted by what he sees transpiring in the ht business. I believe he is helping to try and change it. But the business will not change without a fight. It will go kicking and screaming.

Stephen is one of the nicest and friendliest people you will ever have the chance to meet. I was able to view his 7000 fue work up close within inches. It is absolutely impossible to tell that any surgery was ever performed in both the donor or recipient areas.

The rest of the staff at BHR was fantastic. Each and every one of them excels at their work. Dr. Hesam, Leith, Natasha, Genta, and Katarina make up part of an amazing team that simply gels together.

I look forward to good growth and I am already planning my next procedure in my mind. I have every intention of being back in Brussels one year from now. Of course my situation is different then most. I am limited in what can be achieved and will more then likely still need to use a concealer. I have just made too many poor choices in the past. But I would like to take my repair work as far as it can go.

To all the repair patients, there is hope. To all those considering their first procedure, take your time, become informed, and don't believe the hype.

I will be posting pictures tomorrow including the results at the 1-week point.

Total fue count 828
1 hair 2 hair 3 hair
Scalp 220 470
Beard 32 108 98
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Glad to hear it went well Topcat.   I really respect the fact that Dr. Bisanga does not feel the need to pay to be on a "recommended" list.

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Congratulations Topcat!! A touching story and fantastic looking work. I sincerely hope nothing but the best outcome for you... I think you're going to look great in the months ahead. Thanks for sharing your journey and please keep us updated. Cheers!
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Topcat:

wish you all the best. Really interested in seeing the results in 6 months. Hopefully it will yield enough to provide coverage that you're happy with after all you've been thru. Thanks for the well written post.

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ps. did you have to remove your hat going thru customs? (my biggest fear)
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Contrats Topcat!

Looks like good, clean work to my untrained eye.
Can't wait to see the "new you".

Kudos to you and your doc!

Grow long and prosper.

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The link to my photos has been updated to show the 4 week mark.

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Looking good Topcat,the work from Dr Bisanga speaks for itself. You seem to heal very quickly. Take care bm.

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hey topcat looks like you had a promising session there, I hope you get a great result,
I think I would be tempted to buzz all of that loose hair until the rest starts growing in though, scars and all
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Thanks mintyfresh.

I will post a picture of my hair using a concealer in the next few days. Then you can see why I didn't shave it all off.

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Here is a picture at a little over 4 weeks with a concealer. I work in customer service a few days a week and can't wear a hat.

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Posted on behalf of Topcat

 



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For those of you who are not familiar with my case. This was an exploratory surgery for me. My goals were to test both body and beard hair along with a small amount of available scalp hair. It was a total of 828 fue a relatively small session but I wanted to be extremely cautious.

I have zero visible scarring to both the body and face and the growth has been very good at the 6 month mark. It has made quite a difference for me when using a concealer. I hope to do several more sessions of both chest and beard hair, then finish up with any available scalp donor. I am very realistic in what can be achieved but I'm sure it will make quite a difference.

Since I do spend time outdoors I would notice any white dotting as my skin color changes. I am happy to say I have not experienced this and everything looks normal. I will take some up close shots of the chest and beard donor in September when my skin color has changed the most.

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These are Topcats 7 months update pics.



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I know it might not look like much to others but this is a giant step forward for me. This was somewhat of an exploratory surgery for me. I needed to see if the body and beard hair were going to grow and that I did not experience any visible scarring. At this point I would have to say it's a 100% success. I can now move forward with additional procedures with full confidence.

BHR and Dr. Bisanga are the most ethical and experienced in this business and I am glad I waited 10 years to start this repair and I am also happy that I passed on all the previous doctors in which I had consultations.

Just that little bit of hair that is growing now makes all the difference while using a concealer. I know that I can expect better days ahead.

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looks great with concealer.. are you or Bisanga concerned about the concealer being on your scalp all day? How long do you leave it in?
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Richlocks, the concealr does not seem to be a problem and I have been using for well over 15 years.

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Originally posted by: topcat I know it might not look like much to others but this is a giant step forward for me. This was somewhat of an exploratory surgery for me. I needed to see if the body and beard hair were going to grow and that I did not experience any visible scarring. At this point I would have to say it's a 100% success. I can now move forward with additional procedures with full confidence. BHR and Dr. Bisanga are the most ethical and experienced in this business and I am glad I waited 10 years to start this repair and I am also happy that I passed on all the previous doctors in which I had consultations. Just that little bit of hair that is growing now makes all the difference while using a concealer. I know that I can expect better days ahead.
Topcat, I think this has made a remarkable difference in your appearance. Very happy for you and yes I ageee, better days are ahead for you. Best wishes to you my friend!

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Having only just a little over 800 fue, with half of them being chest and beard hair the results so far are fantastic.

I was out in the Sun all sumer and I have absolutely zero white dotting.

Thank you Farrel for posting my udate.

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Are you going to get more done? Seems like you still have plenty to use.
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Yes, I plan on going back for several more procedures. The next one should be sometime in Dec/Jan.

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Here is Topcat's 11 months update.



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Topcat, which concealer do you use?

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Prothik, although I am thinking about trying topcoverage. Sinice the sprayer on Prothik has recenlty been changed it goes on a little heavier then before. The key seems to be able to spray it on the scalp very lightly to almost get that dotting effect similar to a tattoo.

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do you always wash out before you sleep? do you apply it everyday?
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I wash it out in the morning and I need to apply it everyday. BasicallyI just spray the scalp while the hair is still wet, let me hair air dry and then style. It has almost the same effect as the tattooing that we have seen on the forums. A light spraying of the scalp gives a dotting effect and greatly reduces the contrast between the hair and scalp. The more hair you have the better the effect.

But unlike tattooing it is reversible and doesn't turn blue or fade.

Concealers are messy and do become tiresome to always have to apply but unfortuantely at this point I do not have a choice. I am hoping continued improvement with BHR and additional beard and chest hair I can greatly reduce it's use.

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how did the donor area heal? i think it was you who had bad, jagged scars before this repair...how is the texture of the new hair?

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Chonger, I didn't have any work done to my scars. That is actually the least of my worries and I doubt very much that I have any donor to address them. I am counting on just a small amount of available scalp donor and beard/body hair as I move forward. I will probably never be able to achieve a wow result. But judging from just this one very small procedure I can make a bad situation much, much better.

My initial procedure was approximately 400 scalp, 200 beard and 200 chest. The most important consideration was 100% yield and zero scarring. I am happy to say in my opinion both have been achieved. The growth has been more than I had expected and I have absolutely zero scarring to any area including my chest and face.

The forum owner that banned me because he considered what I had to say about FUE as being dangerous is just as bad as the doctors that are still out there butchering patients or just neglecting to give them all the information necessary to make an intelligent decision.

Anyone considering a HT should consider FUE as their first option. If they decide at some point that they no longer want to pursue further work then it's not a big deal. As long as it's properly planned that same patient can just buzz down and get on with their life. It's also a smart way of just getting your feet wet and actually experiencing a procedure without having to be committed for the rest of your life. Reading about a procedure and actually going through one are not the same.
I have had almost every conceivable ht procedure including 4mm punch grafts, multiple strips, 2 hair lifts, 1 scalp reduction and now fue using scalp, body, and beard. FUE is the least invasive and heals so fast and it's like you didn't even have anything done when comparing it to the rest.

Prospective patients really need to understand that you can always go for a strip later if that is what you choose. But the smart choice would be to just start out with FUE. I have spoken to a countless number of patients and each and every one of them would agree with this point. We also find it sad that too many young men believe the hype and jump into strip, but we also realize many are not going to listen and they have to travel down their own road.


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Topcat nice to see your improvement . It looks better and with more work I feel you will eventually have a real good look . keep on keeping on bro . I dont know where you were banned but I dont recall any posts by you that would call for such a thing .
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fjm96, thank you for the well wishes.

Civil discourse is sometimes frowned upon when it's detrimental to one's bottom line. This is the problem with forums that put together recommended lists in which they are paid a fee. They are stuck between a rock and a hard place when someone such as myself, who has been around for a very long time presents a different point of view. When one can't intelligently debate the issue, it's becomes easier to censor the information and continue business as usual. Unfortunately for some young men they fall into this marketing trap of censored information too easy and in their moments of desperation they are easy prey. It's not my intention to knock these same young men, becasue I think many of us can agree when we were much younger we probably tended not to listen to the advice of someone who had more experience. We just wanted to jump in a little too fast and ended up learning the hard way.

I guess they were hoping I was going to go away, but I don't have any plans on going anywhere. It takes very little effort for me to make occasional posts and I have been doing so for about 12 years now. The possible rewards it reaps in saving others from making a bad choice that could result in a lifetime of pain and regret is well worth my time. It makes me feel good to be able to help others.

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Chonger, regarding the texture. I guess if you really looked very, very close the beard hairs are somewhat thicker. But to be completely honest to me it all blends in very well. Nothing stands out as looking abnormal.

Maybe for others it's different and maybe the coarseness of their beard hair and head hair is greater.

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Posting this on behalf of Topcat

"The pictures with wet hair were just taken become it's easier for me to apply the concealer when my hair is wet.

I also made a mistake in the previous picture, it should be the 10 month update."





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Looking forward to my second procedure with BHR. I'm not quite sure of the numbers as I am a repair patient. It will be a combination of any available scalp donor which is not much, along with chest and beard hair. I am scheduled for Jan. 14 and will keep everyone updated.

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I will have the pictures of my 2nd fue repair procedure taken the first 3 days with BHR up within a few days. This post is meant just to inform others of my experience with the clinic. It is not meant to come off as cheerleading. As I honestly believe that those that can learn to live with less hair might be better off doing nothing at all. But for those that are considering a procedure this is the best clinic in the world in my opinion. Having been around for over 25 years I know something about all the so called top clinics that are out there.

I am not afraid to speak to patients on the phone or to have them in my home. So I do feel this gives me an advantage in some way. Hearing their present day horror stories from so called top clinics sometimes makes my jaw drop. But unfortunately many of them have one thing in common in that they will not post their experience on the forums so don't wait to hear about them.

Visiting Brussels the second time around was much easier since it now is somewhat familiar. If Dr. Bisanga were here in the United States he could easily be considered the triple threat by other clinics. He is a master of strip, fue, and the use of body and beard hair. What actually gives him the biggest advantage over the few doctors that have the skill to perform all three is that he is the only one in the world that is a naturally born artist. I have seen the results of other clinics while also seeing the results of BHR in person. It's not even up for debate he stands alone.

Phil the clinic director is a vast store of knowledge in the hair transplantation industry. The clinic has a way of just telling it like it is regardless if it means losing a client. In the end it often comes down to basic math and sometimes they need to save the prospective patient from themselves. Unfortunately these same patients can often end up at competing clinics resulting in regrets that will last a lifetime. Many returning to BHR looking this time for some type of repair. BHR will always do their best to try and help them. But once the canvas has been soiled even the best clinic in the world has difficulty in making it whole again. If you are one of these patients that went to a highly promoted clinic only to find out it was just hype, tell your story. You have the opportunity to help others avoid your fate. Maybe by coming out of the shadows and doing something good you in turn will see good come back to you. I know it is hard admitting you made a mistake and got suckered in to believing something, but that is just part of life.

Stephen the US consultant is a man of many talents. He possesses a quick wit making even the most nervous of patients feel calm, comfortable and relieved of any tension. He is extremely attentive, always checking in on patients during the procedure and making sure every need is met. He is the epitome of customer service. Stephen's own multiple procedures with BHR are absolutely flawless when examined up close.

All the technicians were equally as great. Since I have worked in customer service for well over 30 years I tend to pick up on the smallest of cues. You can tell so much about a person and how well they enjoy their job by how often they smile. Natasha and Natalie the techs that helped work on my case were always smiling and had the ability to have an occasional laugh while they worked throughout the long day.

I did not have to write any of these thoughts. In fact BHR might even think I am being over the top. But I believe every word I have written as it is the truth. It important for me to say because I know how this industry operates. I think I have been handling all the previous bad work that has been performed on me very well. Others might not have the same optimism that I do and that is where the real danger lies. For those these words may literally be a matter of life and death.


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I am finally updating this thread as I just figured out how to upload the photos.

FUE count 878

Scalp 1 hair(178) 2 hair(263) 3 hair(27) 4 hair(3)

Beard 1 hair(228) 2 hair(63)

Chest 1 hair(104) 2 hair(12)

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7 days









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2 weeks post op.









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1 month post op





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For those that have ever had trouble uploading photos. If you upload you photos to a host site such as photobucket. You can then copy and paste the image code into the image insert funtion on this site. It seems simple now, but unless you have done it before it can be difficult to figure out on your own.

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I missed this picture of the beard donor at 3 days.





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I did receive a comment that my skin still appeared a little red on another forum. This has more to do with the cold dry air here in Chicago along with just coming back from the gym and working up a sweat. This picture of the beard donor might be a better representation as I took it this morning.





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The clinic has a way of just telling it like it is regardless if it means losing a client. In the end it often comes down to basic math and sometimes they need to save the prospective patient from themselves.


I have not had any work done by BHR, but I did have a consultation with them and can corroborate the statement above, they told me straight that I was not a candidate, they also saw me on a weekend and did not charge me for that consultation. This was a number of years ago, I was grateful to them for their candour.

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Everyone here is my 8 week update from my second procedure. The healing has gone just as well as for my first procedure and now it's only a matter of having the hairs grow out in the recipient area. For those interested in the bht numbers I have had over 2 procedures a total of 491 beard hairs in a fairly concentrated area around the chin since my beard is not very strong and approximately 216 chest hairs and if my math is correct the scalp donor was 1141over 2 procedures. BHR please correct those numbers if I have made any errors.
Thanks again to BHR for even accepting me as a patient. It was a very risky proposition but they are an ethical, honest and well run clinic and for that I am very grateful. I would also like to say that I hope my many posts on several forums do not come off as being too abrasive as I really consider myself mild manner and willing to help and give to anyone. This whole long 25+ year journey has just added a great deal of stress to my life so I hope most here understand.










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One poster on another forum has already commented that he was unimpressed with the result so I probably need to explain this last posting for those who do not take time to read the whole thread. There is no result to see as it's been 8 weeks since the surgery. This posting is meant for those that are considering body and beard hair. Close to 500 fue were extracted from my face in a fairly concentrated area I would guess approximately 2 sq inches. The pictures are posted for the benefit of others to evaluate the donor area 8 weeks out and are meant to be informative in nature. The post is not for my benefit it's for your benefit.

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Here is my 3 month update for my 2nd procedure. There is not much to see at this point except for the healing process and the hairs growing back from the previous procedure. Any redness you notice is due to still wearing a hat at the gym and too much sweating. I am just now starting to be able to use a concealer again, but it is still cold here so that is the reason for wearing the hat.

So far I am more than pleased with the slow and steady progress moving forward. Having a natural result and no scarring is paramount. I will take some more photos of the body and beard donor at 6 months to show no white dot scarring when the skin is exposed to the sun as I did during my first procedure.



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Hi TC

Many thanks for your updates and well kept records. Looking forward to more updates in the next phase, the exciting part to come.

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Here is my update at 4 months after my 2nd procedure. Not much to report at this time as it is way too early to see any substantial growth. I am happy at this point to be able to use concealer and not have to wear a hat.

I also do not really obsess about it. The hair will start to grow when it's ready and I just get on with my day.





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Here is my update at 5 months and the hairs are coming in very nicely. I must say that all this extra hair where there was once none is really starting to make a difference for me. The healing has been exceptional and my donor areas are impeccable. I will update my donor area pictures in another month or so as most of my work at the moment requires me to spend plenty of time in the sunshine. I could not imagine being unable to take of my shirt due to white dotting. The health benefits of all that Vitamin D are just too important.



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Looking good. Best of luck for continued excellent growth.

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Thanks TKD. The yield has been exceptionally high, the scarring nonexistent and the blending of the beard and chest hair very natural looking.

I know for many fue scarring has always been a concern especially on the face and body at least it always was for me. This was one of the reasons why I was always anxious to have that initial test done. I have been out in the sun quite a bit and my skin has become much darker. I have absolutely zero white dotting anywhere.

I will update those donor area pictures somewhere towards the middle/end of summer for others to evaluate.


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Looking fantastic imo....night and day form where you started. Congrats on your progress so far dude.

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Thanks Bullitnut. As I wrote on another forum the extra hair is really starting to make a huge difference for me. I use to have to do a complete combover from left to right and I barely pulled it off. Now I can style my hair slightly forward giving my hairline a much softer appearance. I can only describe it as a huge relief at this point and it's only 6 months since the second procedure.

I'm sure you understand what I'm talking about here. Sometimes all it takes is just that little bit of extra hair and it makes all the difference.

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Here is my picture at 6 months following my second procedure. The hair is coming in very nicely and making quite a difference for me this early in my repair. I must also repeat that my donor areas are flawless. I will post pictures of the beard and chest areas in a few weeks. I have included a before picture for comparison. The growth for 1600+ fue of which 50% were made up of many single chest and beard hairs has been incredible.

I have been doing plenty of work outdoors along with enjoying some leisure time in the sun and with my skin getting darker it is quite evident that I have zero white dotting. Being in the sun is a big deal for me as I have become extremely health conscious over the years. The sun raises testosterone levels, serotonin levels, and vitamin D levels and I can't imagine not being able to enjoy it.






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As I have written the progress so far this early has been fantastic. Just wanted to post a photo using some concealer and show exactly why all that extra hair matters. Anyone that uses a concealer knows the more hair you have the better it works.



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Wow, congrats, great improvement!

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Thanks Farrel, it's so much easier to style my hair at this point which is quite a relief.

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Topcat, which concealer do you use?

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topcat,

You look awesome with concealer! And you have 6month+ to regrow and improve your results so this starts to be alredy success You must be relieved...

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VDW I have tried just about every concealer out there over the years. I have found Prothik to be one of the best. It is very good at being water proof and since I do sweat heavily when I'm in the gym that matters. It also is fairly easy to apply as you just spray it on. Sometimes the sprayer will get clogged towards the end of the product contents but soaking the sprayer head solves this problem.

I apply the concealer to my scalp with the hair still wet. Basically I am trying to have the same effect as micropigmentation. Without having the concealer being applied to heavily on the hair shaft itself, it keeps its natural shine and highlights giving a much more natural appearance.


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Ssolriah, thanks and yes it's a big relief at this point and it's still very early.

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Topcat,

Although we've had our disagreements, I'm happy to see this pic showing great improvement in your situation. Congrats.

Happy growing to you.

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Wow, that concealer is effective, I can see now why those few hundred grafts make such a difference to you

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Here is something most might not understand about me and my hair transplant experience over all these years. Even though I was taken advantage of by all those previous clinics as they were in a position of authority and superior knowledge many good things did come out of it.

As I have stated in the past I became more aware of not only how things work in the field of medicine but generally in the world itself. Because of my experience I have become very knowledgeable and conscious of my health and that has been a true blessing. I have as much energy and stamina when I wake up each and every day as I did when I was a teenager and this is as my 49th birthday is quickly approaching. How much is that worth? Can one even put a price on it? It brings a tremendous amount of happiness into my life. But not only that, it has helped so many others that have come to know me. Sometimes you can't help believe things happen for a reason.

I have worked in the nite club industry for a good portion of my life. Having access to women was very easy working in that industry. Coupled with the fact that I developed those social skills when I was 13 and confidence with women was never a problem. Here's the point, because of my experience with these bad hair clinics my morals and values which were already strong at the time became only stronger. It was hard for me to understand why others would take advantage of someone and often times as we have seen on the forums destroy another's life for monetary gain. So instead of ending up with the good looking woman that also was a little wild which always attracted me. I ended up with the good looking woman that also had high morals and values. A woman that cares more about me than herself. Of course as I look around me and observe others in relationships and see their misery I count my blessings. I realize how much happiness this has also brought into my life.

So I have to ask myself would having a full head of hair but having extremely poor health along with being in a miserable relationship make me happier if I was offered the chance, the answer would be no.

Bad doctors and self serving clinics can make all the money in the world that they want but it doesn't bring someone happiness unbeknownst to them. In fact it does just the opposite as that greed can only bring like minded individuals into their life which usually ends up in unhappiness no matter how much money they make. We see it in the news day in and day out but sometimes we fail to understand the reasons behind it. Something else these same people fail to realize is that you are not taking all that useless crap those ill gotten funds provided you with when you die. When it's your time to go what is really important is what you did for others while you were here. Who did you help along the way and how will you be remembered? The relatives will fight over some of that useless crap and the rest get tossed into the garbage. The bad doctors will be remembered as that ***** who destroyed the lives of so many others because they were so greedy, quite an accomplishment. I'm sure their parents would have been proud.

Making money is great and I don't mind working hard for it but for me it is simply not at the top of my list. I don't need loads of useless crap that all the big corporations are trying to convince me will bring happiness into my life. I'm already happy and it has very little to do with money. In fact I go out of my way not to buy that crap as it just feeds into the system and makes me feel like a sucker just like those self serving clinics made me feel.

My hair issues began all because of one offhanded comment by a relative at an age when one is probably most venerable to feeling insecure. Too bad I didn't have the emotional security and confidence at that young age that I do now. But that is life and there is always something good that comes out of something bad. It's all about one's perception.

Anyone that thinks that I have ulterior motives doesn't know me well. Nothing makes me happier or makes me feel better than being able to help someone else. For someone to say I really appreciate what you told me or how you helped me because it has made a huge difference in my life makes my day.

And of course having all this extra hair that is now growing makes me happy. Plenty of posters here know what it's like trying to style just a few strands of hair to look presentable to the world. It can be a time consuming and frustrating ordeal on a daily basis. It really is a big relief for me.


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what a powerful uplifting post.. thank you for that....i just cant put into words right now how nice it was to read this, having delt with a similar path myself.. i went under the knife as a young 21year old kid who knew so little about myself and the world around me.. that decision changed the course of my entire life.. somehow as painful and as challenging as the past 6 years have been ive grown in ways im almost certain would still be "stunted" had i not foolishly sliced my head opened from ear to ear all those years ago.

theres a lot of wisdom in your post topcat.. the wonderful life you were determined to make for yourself is an inspiration to me..

i believe honesty and purity always shines through on these forums.. genuine, pure intentioned posters often stick out like a sore thumb on these forums because there is so much of the "other stuff" on here.. in many ways the forums are simply a reflection of the world as a whole, in my opinion..

i know you have been attacked by other posters at times and you feel the need to "clear your name" in a way.. well DONT!. trust that those of us reading and those lurking are smart enough to see where your intentions lay.. 99% of us know you your not an agenda guy, those who pathetically attempt to lable you as such are merely trying to deflect from their own impure intent. some of them are quite good at it too, they have been at it a while.. but topcat the smart reader sees right through it. even though many may not speak up when its happening i truly believe many see between the lines.

you my friend should rest easy at night.. you truly are one of the good guys.. not all of us on these forums can say that, no matter how hard they try to fake it..

thanks again for sharing a piece of yourself with us.. youre the type of guy who gives me hope in a world that seems to be going to hell.

looks great with a little concealer BTW.. very cool
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SFT thank you for the kind words

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Here are some pictures of my beard donor areas just after the procedure and as it looks today. My skin has gotten much darker from working outside in the sunshine but it's hard to tell from the close up photo. I have found no visible evidence of the extractions being made except for the missing hair which was taken from a relatively small area due to my beard not being as strong. Approximately 500 beard fue over 2 sessions. I will post pictures of the chest extractions in a few weeks, which give a better idea of the change in skin color from being in the sun with the same result of no visible evidence of extractions being made.





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Many thanks for the updates topcat, glad all has healed well.

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Thanks SL I have gotten much better at taking very up close pictures in extreme light. I consider this very important information especially for repair patients so I am happy that I am able to provide it. It's hard to tell from that close up picture but my skin has gotten a couple of shades darker from being outside in the sun.

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Yes thanks for updates.
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7 month update from 2nd procedure. My hair is slightly wet.



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The following pictures represent the pictures I always wanted to see when researching. Going back 7 years ago or so I would always ask those that had bht performed if they had any pictures with the donor area tanned. That for me personally was the golden standard when judging if any white dotting would be evident. I was very well aware of punch sizes at the time but knowing that a small punch was going to be used was simply not enough.

The following pictures show my skin at 7 days post op and at 19 months post op after approximately 215 chest hair extractions. I have been working outside fairly often this summer and I also just enjoy spending leisure time in the sun. My skin is more than several shades darker and I can honestly say I have no visible scarring. I can only speak for myself and my own experience. It is important for others to make their own decisions after they thoroughly research the procedure.







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Hi Topcat

Certainly the healing has been good on you as proven in these shots of light and dark tanned skin.

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topcat,

Your in good shape man
I think this is 8 month post op?

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Hi Ssolriah yes this is 8 months post op. It is still thickening up a bit and has made quite a difference for me. I would say the yield has been 100% but others can judge for themselves by looking at the before pictures while understanding both procedures were very small using a combination of head, chest and beard hair and then looking at the current picture.

I know white dotting has been debated on the forums for years and I have seen plenty of it. But I would say in my own situation I do not have any visible white dot scarring.


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I know everyone by now is probably getting tired of looking at my progress through pictures. But at this point , 8 months since my second procedure, styling my hair while using a much smaller amount of concealer is a breeze. I don't have to sit there endlessly trying to make sure every hair is in place for fear that I might draw stares to my hairline. At this point I feel my hair looks completely natural and that feeling has given me back the ability to be more at ease in public and around family and friends.

I used to have to completely paint the top of my head, I no longer need to do that and for that I am very grateful.







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Looks great Topcat. More than anything, I think everyone will agree that the stronger feeling of reassurance and confidence that you have gained from the procedure is the main prize.

Look forward to seeing more growth from you in the months ahead.
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This young 23 year old has slight recession in the temple area and has received a few comments from a family member. Is he a candidate for a procedure?


This young man is me 25 years ago and it is quite obvious that I in fact do not need a hair transplant procedure. What I needed was someone who was human enough to say to themselves, the small amount of money I am going to make from this young man that amounts to less than $1000 is really not worth ruining his life. He should have said "listen kid you have a full head of hair you do not want to do this and here is why."

Unfortunately I learned a very hard lesson as Carlos Puig led me to believe he was just going to move a few hairs to the temple area. In my mind I imagined it was something akin to plucking. Instead he proceeded to core out my skull with a drill and implant approximately 40 giant 4mm plugs into my slightly thinning hairline. Of course out of desperation I did my best to try and fix the damage only to find out that I was only digging a deeper hole. Robert Michael Elliott and his partner Thomas proceeded to only do further damage while using the janitor to place my grafts and glue them in place. Dominic Brandy was hardly my savior and I guess I should count my blessings that I didn't die on the table. Did I deserve any of this, if you knew me the answer would definitely be no. But many who have had the same experience can say the same.

This specific post is not meant to gain sympathy only to point out that those who believe the industry has gotten better are sorely mistaken. I have watched it closely for 25 years. Some of the techniques have advanced but the industry is filled with what can only be described as psychopaths. Take the time if you can and view the websites of each of the doctors I have listed. It's amazing to watch as they carry on like everything is normal and they have not done harm to so many. Same as many doctors today that are touted as top in the field, be very careful of what you believe. Unless you have personally spoken to dozens and dozens of patients and those that work in this industry you don't know jack sh*t.

I have been attacked in the past and I take that very personal. Just like hundreds of other repair patients I am a real person with real experiences that had to learn the hard way. If I can save one person from being taken advantage of and making a bad decision than that fulfills me. Nothing disgusts me more than those that present themselves as advocates but their true motives are just the opposite. Sometimes my postings may come off as being rude but if it takes being rude to help someone from making a mistake then so be it. I certainly wish I had someone to slap me upside my head at the age of 23. And let me be quite honest here. I would never in my life enter a contest for one pro bono HT procedure if in fact I didn't believe that the doctor after all my research and all the people I had spoken to was the absolute best in the world and anybody that thinks different is out of their mind. I saw the pro bono offer as the kick in the ass that I needed to lose my fear of traveling half way around the world and get back into the chair after so many years and bad experiences and nothing more.

Of course I still wonder on occasion what possessed a doctor to disfigure me at such a young age when it was quite evident I had absolutely no idea of what was about to happen. I'm sure there are also those out there that would view it as the patient's fault. To that I would say speak to few 23 year olds and you will soon realize just how naïve they are and how easily they can be taken advantage of. Making a few dollars off of them is like taking candy away from a baby.

I am a firm believer in what goes around comes around. The people in this industry that are still destroying lives for a few dollars can only attract like minded individuals into their own lives. Maybe in time it will all even out.


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Great post. As a repair patient, I can fully appreciate your story and post. Since my first procedure with Chambers Hair Institute in 1990, not much has changed in this field. Yes, there are more ethical Doctors, now using smaller graft sizes, FUE and body hairs, but the same problems exist. In 1990, I had more hair than your picture, with minor crown loss. Due to similar reasons, and mis-placed trust, I ended up having four small sessions of "mini-grafts" in the crown. As my hair loss progressed, they became more and more noticeable. Today, I can only marginally conceal them by using hair gel and plastering them backwards. I shudder when I see clinics posting pictures of 3000k grafts to a hair line that shouldn't have been touched. Hair loss is progressive and these patients are in for a world of pain if they lose more hair. I have a nice island of plugs in my crown, surrounded by bald areas..
After years of research, in-person consults, picture consults am going forward with a repair in January of 2012. I, like many repair patients am stuck in hair transplant purgatory...either due a reversal, or try a repair. I haven't seen many reversal pics that come out good....pitting being the main culprit, although better to the eye than unsightly plugs.
The first stage of my repair will be a strip of hopefully 2300 grafts, and FUE punchout of of minigrafts, redistributing them in a natural pattern. I was told a second pass at the plugs will probably be needed in one year.
When the time comes, I will name the clinic and not to promote them, allow to post my pictures. They have pics from a photo consult in 2010, shaved head pics from Sept 2010 and the most current pics from my in-person consult in May of this year. I do not have the pics any longer as my hard drive crashed, but the clinic does.
I am taking a huge leap of faith in this clinic to fix something that they did not create, and hopefully give me a result that I can live with. For the record, I am a NW 5a to 6 with diffused thinning on top, but solid sides. Salt and pepper hair will help in the final result (I hope). Like most victims of poor procedures, this has taken a hard emotional toll on myself, I'd give anything to be a plain, unscarred NW6 right now (age 49).
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Thincity as one repair patient to another I wish the absolute best.

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Great post Topcat!..........I agree with you 150%.....I was 26....a little older but still dumb in regard to what i was getting myself into....

its been 15 years as of last month........
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Pvtpoint thank you

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I know it takes time and effort for many to post to these forums but it is important and it's the reason why I make a point to take the time and make the effort. One of my favorite authors says it very well in this excerpt:

All experiences can serve as our teachers, provided we learn from the information and invest its value in our own lives. There are those who teach that associations with people who have not done well with their lives and their opportunities should be avoided at all cost for fear that we will learn their poor habits, and as a consequence, repeat their unfortunate mistakes. However, as someone wisely said, "Those who do not learn from the mistakes of the past are condemned to repeat them." If we ignore the lessons of the past, from whatever the source, then we may become victims of the process of trial and error. By ignoring the lessons of history, our own trials will become inevitable and our own errors will ultimately destroy us.

It is unfortunate, perhaps, that those who fail do not share their experiences for all to hear. If we had more opportunity to learn from the negative experiences of others, we might well save ourselves from certain disaster.


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2nd procedure 10 months



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Topcat,
Did you ever confront Dr. Carlos Puig years letter and give him a piece of your mind and let him know how he has ruined your life? Maybe send him a long letter detailing your feelings for what he did to you? Would he ever acknowledge that his work is disfiguring and at least very unsatisfactory?

If you did, I am wondering how he took it. The sick thing is that this scum of a human being knew exactly what he was doing when he destroyed your life. He took advantage of a young, naiive, and possibly insecure man. All of this so he could make a fast buck.
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Jeremiah I have thought about that on occasion but I guess it's just not that pressing of an issue for me. But now that you bring it up maybe I will, just to see if I get a response and I can post it so others might learn something.

My thoughts on this are that he is a complete psychopath and I don't say that for sensationalism. It is something I honestly believe and it applies to many doctors that are still being recommended.

I was only 23 and at that time and there was zero information available about transplants. I was led to believe by the salesperson that they were going to simply move a few hairs into the temple region. I honestly believed in my mind that it was something akin to plucking hairs and just inserting them to fill in the area. Keep in mind this was 25 years ago. I had no idea that this psycho was going to core out the back of my skull and place hideous 4mm plugs of dark thick hair into my thinning hairline. All I can say is that I was mortified, ashamed and embarrassed like many others. What kind of person would do this?

My biggest issue today really is that clinics still keep patients in the dark and this is why I post regardless of what some shills have had to say. And I will also add that these shills turn my stomach. The good majority of clinics do not in fact reveal all the cards so that a patient can make an intelligent decision. Just the fact that strip clinics today are not recommending some patients that are better suited to go to a clinic that performs FUE because they do not offer it says so much. The majority of the doctors are just in it for the money no matter what. Many of them will roll the dice and give you a mega session, after all it's not them sitting in the chair and the money spends just as well if you have a sh*t result. Eventually the bad results go away. And what about these guys in their 20's having clinics willing to give them a super low dense hairline. Each and every one of these clinics is irresponsible but they simply do not have the integrity to turn that customer away.

I think if most prospective patients can wait at least 2-3 years and try and learn as much as possible about how this industry operates they will make a better decision. But many of these same clinics know they are dealing with young and anxious buyers and it doesn't take much to convince them.

BTW here is a picture of me at 23 hardly a canidate for a ht let alone some maniac planting 4 mm plugs into my hairline. I would also add that many of these clinics doing business the same way today don't worry much. These young guys are too embarassed and ashamed to do anything about a bad result and they know that.





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Here is my 11 month update after my second procedure.



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I have scheduled my 3rd procedure with BHR for May 19th of this year. Once again my donor situation will be evaluated and this will dictate the size of the procedure. My improvement so far has made a huge difference in my life. I have received some comments that no improvement can be seen by some on the forums. I'm not quite sure what to make of those comments but I can say they hardly bother me and I always make a point to respond to them. No one knows my hair like I do and at this point styling has been much easier and it is a huge relief.

Many also cannot understand why this long drawn out amount of time in the repair process. Only those in the same shoes or those old enough to know that the older you become the less risk you are willing to take will understand. This is what many of the young guys who are still making bad decisions in regards to hair transplantation fail to grasp. You have a valuable resource in those that have been around and have gone before you slow down and use it. They do not make any money from this industry in any way and they do it because they know that many of these naïve young men are easy prey for too many clinics and they can't stand to see it still happening.

There are many experts in this business but I would suggest becoming your own expert. In my opinion anyone in this business that does not tell you that proceeding slowly with fue first using a small hand punch and a smaller procedure from which you can easily decide at any point that you would not like to pursue hair transplantation further and still look normal and that it must be performed by a skilled doctor that has a natural artistic talent is not doing what is in your best interest. Most of the innovation is in fue for a reason and until everyone can perform it with high yield and in my case no scarring you will not see it heavily promoted, that is just the way the world works, money all too often trumps ethics.

I will update everyone before I leave before my procedure.


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I recently had someone ask me to post a current picture of my chin area where I had approximately 500 fue extracted from an area about 2sq inches. They felt that there was scarring. In my opinion I do not visibly see scarring. I do have the slightest redness due to dry skin and working outside but other then that I am very pleased with the donor area.



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I am reposting my response here from another forum to a question regarding white dotting. I believe it to be valuable information.

Nasser my own life experience has taught me to investigate thoroughly and don't take necessarily take someone's advice because they where a white coat and have a piece of paper hanging on the wall. Too many of these types have a feeling of self importance and they develop an arrogance that they rarely like to have questioned.

The doctor that told you that you would experience white dotting may be 100% right. In his hands there very well could be white dotting, high transaction rate, poor extraction pattern, over harvesting, low yield, etc. But you see that is how the hair transplant industry works. They like to leave out information so they are not necessarily lying in fact they are still being truthful but it certainly does not help you make an informed decision when you don't have all the information.

I could give you so many examples in other areas but I will use one on nutrition. Does meat cause cancer? Well if you eat meat the way it's raised for profit the answer would probably be yes. It is laced with estrogenic hormones, antibiotics, very high in the omega 6 fatty acids and outside of not only feeding the cow an unnatural diet of grains it is also fed other dead animal parts except now they have to leave the other cow parts out to avoid mad cow disease but the rest of it is still being used. Unusable parts from goats, chickens, pigs, dogs, cats, road kill etc. Now would something like this cause cancer my guess would be yes, very probable. Especially when the same product is heated to very high temperatures producing lots of advance glycation end products.

But now if we were to look at meat that is not produced for profit but with the consumer welfare in mind the story is completely different. The cow eats only a diet of grass and the meat is very high in the omega 3 fatty acid along with being very high in conjugated linoleic acid another potent cancer fighter and also a great repartioning agent forcing the body to put on more muscle and burn more fat. When the meat is cooked very slowly on low heat, think soups and stews with the meat still on the bone all the glycosaminoglycans are released which help stimulate the growth of new healthy collagen and help repair damaged joints and skin. But you see this advice is free and no one makes money on free so maybe they better stick with the Acell. BTW the supplement manufacturers don't like this type of information either.

There is a point to all of this. The guy selling you the crap is not going to tell you about the guy selling the other better product that you need to learn on your own.

Here are both my before and after pictures.





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moving beard hair to your scalp?? Who is that stupid to go through that procedure?!?
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2020 - You need to get laid. On second thought, you should wait until you're at least 18 yo.
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Even posts like the one by 2020 are educational. He has 366 posts and joined 3 months ago. Those that don't understand what that means do not understand how the forums can sometimes work. Understand, many that post to the forums are here for other reasons.

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The point of the post is for others to assess the fue donor region. Rarely will a patient come back to the forums and show their donor areas shaved down for others to evaluate.

My donor areas in my opinion have healed exceptionally well including the head, chest and face. No one wants to have to have extractions from their face if it can be avoided but I have been put in a position where I need to use this donor region in order to normalize my appearance.

One simply does not make a hasty decision when they become a repair patient and has waited 10 years to figure out all this bullshit.

2020 you are a typical 20 something with a loud mouth on the internet and nothing substantial to say that would be of any use to anyone. But in real life and when meeting in person guys like you know well to keep your mouth shut as your balls suddenly start to shrink up.

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seriously, your hair will look horrible anyways except that now you won't be able to grow a beard.... wow
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The donor looks very well healed . Thanks for updating . How long post op did it take for you to get by going out in public with the beard donor area ? Also do you use any ointments to help ?
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Here is a picture of the same beard area 4 days post op. As I have often posted I went out for dinner and walked around Brussels the next day and I felt completely comfortable. Not one person so much as took a second look at my beard area where the fue's were extracted. This is why I feel that small hand punches are superior. It's from my own research and my own experience. It's not something that I just pull out of thin air.

It's also why I often post that in my opinion Acell is complete marketing bullshit and hype. The human body has been using foods to help heal the body for thousands of years. Maybe patients should consider foods that are nutrient dense and heal the body as opposed to abusing it and looking for the magic bullet. But clinics can't make money by suggesting foods plus they wouldn't even know where to begin and they often no nothing about the subject.

I will put up my healing speed against Acell any day.



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I will be uploading some current pictures of my case as next week I will be having my 3rd procedure with BHR. Yes the procedures are small but that makes them affordable and I can say without doubt the yield is exceptional along with the healing, what more could a person ask for.

The first set of pictures are the most important at least they are for me. Picture number 1 is my before picture using a massive amount of concealer while the following 3 pictures require only a light dusting of concealer. For me this is huge and only I know the difference it has made in making my life easier as I don't have to stress out about how my hair looked like crap in the first picture. I understand many others might not quite get it but then they probably never will.









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Stay away from doctors who perform mega sessions, have posts deleted, attack posters, sue patients & forum owners, use power drills or robots. I recommend fue with hand punches in the .70-.85 range. I consulted with dozens of clinics over the years and there was a recurring theme regarding FUE among some employees of those other clinics. I was told Bisanga was the man my research told me the same and my experience validated my own research.
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Just updating with my donor area pictures before I leave for Brussels this week. I have been in the sun a little as once I have my procedure I will need to avoid it so loading up my vitamin D levels beforehand would seem to make some sense and I am 100% against using sunscreen as I believe the consequences are exactly the opposite of their intent.

My experience has been zero white dotting and extremely high yield. I tend to hear this misinformation by many of the other clinics. Not that white dotting does not exist for some patients but this issue comes down to choices that a patient makes as too many choose for convenience, same goes for yield. Just choose the right clinic.

This will be my 3rd procedure and the hairs should be starting to come in right around my 50th birthday which is a gift I am most grateful for. I also plan on dropping about 20lbs as I no longer need to carry the extra weight around which was job related. Of course I will do this over time as that is the best way to approach goals in my book. Slowly with constant and never ending improvement and I would suggest the same for anyone contemplating a hair transplant.

Take your time and make your choices because they are the right choices and not because they are convenient.

My chest hairs have been trimmed beforehand with lots of gray same with the beard.





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hey topcat beard looks good to me! i also had some grafts taken from my beard just below my chin down to my neck, i can't see any scaring either. a bit off topic but have you ever been on the roids ? you look ripped for an older bloke.
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I agree tomorrow no scarring for me but I still hear this myth being perpetuated by many clinics along with the low yield myth. It all comes down to the doctor and his tools so I do try to make a point through pictures and postings. Information, if I had that when I was younger I could have made better decisions. Prospective patients today have access to much more information so hopefully they use it but there will always be those with no experience that think they know better.

I take the steroid comment as a compliment as I have never used the substance. In fact I have taken practically zero medications prescription or over the counter for the last 25 years or so. My hair transplant experience caused such distrust in doctors for me that I have not been to one outside of trying to repair my hair for about the same number of years 25. It became important for me to study nutrition so that in fact I did not need the service of a doctor.

I actually need to lose another 10-20 lbs as a personal goal I am trying to reach in order to pursue other opportunities. It is very easy to accomplish and it has nothing to do with supplements or other types of gimmicks. It really does come down to knowledge which requires an extensive amount of reading. Otherwise one will just fall prey to marketing ploys which are pervasive throughout every industry.

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Stay away from doctors who perform mega sessions, have posts deleted, attack posters, sue patients & forum owners, use power drills or robots. I recommend fue with hand punches in the .70-.85 range. I consulted with dozens of clinics over the years and there was a recurring theme regarding FUE among some employees of those other clinics. I was told Bisanga was the man my research told me the same and my experience validated my own research.
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I am disappointed to say that due to a complete travel nightmare I was unable to make it to Brussels. The airlines changed gates 3 times, postponed the departure about 10 times, changed the plane twice and then needed to get an okay on some parts they used from another plane on the one I was suppose to be flying which was not very comforting. They cancelled the flight somewhere around midnight and by the time I walked away from the ticket counter it was 12 hours later.

They did offer me a flight the next day which was almost twice as long with a stopover in New Jersey bringing me into Brussels sometime around 8:00 AM the day of my procedure. By the time I got in touch with BHR I was worn down and to say the least a little stressed. But I made that appointment and would have just kept waiting for that next flight. BHR felt that for my well being I should in fact not take that next flight as it just was not in my best interest and that I could reschedule. All I can say they are a clinic that cares about their patients.

Just like everyone else I try and balance the cost of the procedure with travel, hotel, and time off from work. I thought I could save a few dollars by taking United Airlines over Brussels Air which I used before. Big mistake on my part and in hindsight I didn't put too much thought into it. How the United Airlines employees handled the whole situation can only be described and amateurish and very unprofessional. But I also have completely forgotten how those same employees have been treated over the years by those in management as I know a few that work for the company. That treatment is reflected in how they represent their company which I would best describe as careless. I bring this up because for those that think it doesn't it matter which I have seen stated on the forums concerning clinics you are completely wrong.

I will reschedule and I can keep waiting as I'm in no hurry. Things are very good right now without further procedures. It dawned on me as I sat at O'Hare airport which is very brightly lit with dozens of skylights a hair transplant patient's nightmare. I remember how uncomfortable I felt sitting there before leaving for my first procedure. Well that unpleasant feeling was no longer there as I was able to sit and converse with those around me and be very relaxed. Spoke to one lady from San Antonio for well over an hour and it was a nice feeling being comfortable in my own skin which is exactly what I was trying to achieve.

Will update my thread when I have rescheduled.

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Stay away from doctors who perform mega sessions, have posts deleted, attack posters, sue patients & forum owners, use power drills or robots. I recommend fue with hand punches in the .70-.85 range. I consulted with dozens of clinics over the years and there was a recurring theme regarding FUE among some employees of those other clinics. I was told Bisanga was the man my research told me the same and my experience validated my own research.

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Originally posted by: topcat

I agree tomorrow no scarring for me but I still hear this myth being perpetuated by many clinics along with the low yield myth. It all comes down to the doctor and his tools so I do try to make a point through pictures and postings. Information, if I had that when I was younger I could have made better decisions. Prospective patients today have access to much more information so hopefully they use it but there will always be those with no experience that think they know better.



I take the steroid comment as a compliment as I have never used the substance. In fact I have taken practically zero medications prescription or over the counter for the last 25 years or so. My hair transplant experience caused such distrust in doctors for me that I have not been to one outside of trying to repair my hair for about the same number of years 25. It became important for me to study nutrition so that in fact I did not need the service of a doctor.



I actually need to lose another 10-20 lbs as a personal goal I am trying to reach in order to pursue other opportunities. It is very easy to accomplish and it has nothing to do with supplements or other types of gimmicks. It really does come down to knowledge which requires an extensive amount of reading. Otherwise one will just fall prey to marketing ploys which are pervasive throughout every industry.


hey topcat could you point in the right direction for a good book to read on proper nutrition, always looking to gain more muscle and loose more fat. as far as supplements go i only take WPI. whats your bf at the moment ?
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Tomorrow I would guess my bodyfat to be somewhere around 15% but I have never really been concerned with it as I enjoy and compete in strength sports along with martial arts and not so much with bodybuilding. It is only recently that I am trying to lower my bodyfat, the reason being is I have had this idea for a training device that does target the core and in order to see that development along with any potential to market this item I would need to lower my bodyfat to the single digits. The idea I have had for about 7 years now, built a couple of prototypes over that time but then put it off to the side for a bit. I would like to pursue it.

I do a tremendous amount of reading and to understand nutrition it's almost similar to researching hair transplantation. How does one weed through all of the bullshit which is 90% of what is out there and figure out the truth. Only through lots of effort and plenty of time. I have read hundreds and hundreds of books on nutrition and most of them are not worth mentioning but there are several dozen that I feel are very good. And I say this through just using basic logic along with experience through application.

I think it's important to not only understand nutrition itself but marketing, geo politics, capitalism, and psychology just to name a few. It's all related and one does need to see the big picture of what is exactly happening and why you believe what you believe. People are under the false assumption that it is only in history that people were just naïve and believed things that were not true like the sun revolving around the earth, smoking was healthy or margarine was safe to eat and that is just naming a few. People just don't see their own beliefs as being completely wrong as long as it is in line with the masses then it must be right.

Okay I don't want to be long winded here. I will list 3 classics, 4 recent reads and what's currently on my plate but only for nutrition. I am leaving a very long list of very good books off this list as it would be too long. BTW I started reading about nutrition when I was 12, I will be 50 soon so that is a lot of years.

Classics, these books are should reads but you will probably prefer the 4 from the current list as the classic list might be boring to most.

Nutrition and Physical Degeneration (Weston A Price)
Nutrition and Evolution (Crawford and Marsh) * favorite
Food Politics (Marion Nestle)

Current List
Wheat Belly (William Davis)
Primal Body Primal Mind ( Nora T Gedgaudas)
Deep Nutrition: Why Your Genes Need Traditional Foods (Catherine Shanahan)
Trick and Treat (Barry Groves)

On my plate
Why We Get Fat (Gary Tabues)
Food Rules (Catherine Shanahan)

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Originally posted by: topcat

Tomorrow I would guess my bodyfat to be somewhere around 15% but I have never really been concerned with it as I enjoy and compete in strength sports along with martial arts and not so much with bodybuilding. It is only recently that I am trying to lower my bodyfat, the reason being is I have had this idea for a training device that does target the core and in order to see that development along with any potential to market this item I would need to lower my bodyfat to the single digits. The idea I have had for about 7 years now, built a couple of prototypes over that time but then put it off to the side for a bit. I would like to pursue it.



I do a tremendous amount of reading and to understand nutrition it's almost similar to researching hair transplantation. How does one weed through all of the bullshit which is 90% of what is out there and figure out the truth. Only through lots of effort and plenty of time. I have read hundreds and hundreds of books on nutrition and most of them are not worth mentioning but there are several dozen that I feel are very good. And I say this through just using basic logic along with experience through application.



I think it's important to not only understand nutrition itself but marketing, geo politics, capitalism, and psychology just to name a few. It's all related and one does need to see the big picture of what is exactly happening and why you believe what you believe. People are under the false assumption that it is only in history that people were just naïve and believed things that were not true like the sun revolving around the earth, smoking was healthy or margarine was safe to eat and that is just naming a few. People just don't see their own beliefs as being completely wrong as long as it is in line with the masses then it must be right.



Okay I don't want to be long winded here. I will list 3 classics, 4 recent reads and what's currently on my plate but only for nutrition. I am leaving a very long list of very good books off this list as it would be too long. BTW I started reading about nutrition when I was 12, I will be 50 soon so that is a lot of years.



Classics, these books are should reads but you will probably prefer the 4 from the current list as the classic list might be boring to most.



Nutrition and Physical Degeneration (Weston A Price)

Nutrition and Evolution (Crawford and Marsh) * favorite

Food Politics (Marion Nestle)



Current List

Wheat Belly (William Davis)

Primal Body Primal Mind ( Nora T Gedgaudas)

Deep Nutrition: Why Your Genes Need Traditional Foods (Catherine Shanahan)

Trick and Treat (Barry Groves)



On my plate

Why We Get Fat (Gary Tabues)

Food Rules (Catherine Shanahan)


Thanks mate, going to start on Wheat Belly seems like a popular book
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Hello everyone I'm just updating my thread before leaving for Brussels. My 3rd procedure is scheduled for Monday Nov. 5 2012 and it has been 2 years since my last procedure. I would honestly have to say I am very content with the progress I have achieved with the help of Dr. Bisanga and everyone at BHR. If I stopped right now it would be good enough for me as I can easily get on with my day not having to deal with trying to style a few strands of hair. But I also like to take everything to the limit in whatever I do so I will continue as far as my depleted head donor along with limited beard and chest hair will take me.

I believe Dr. Bisanga's work to be some of the best in the world but not only that I sincerely like him as a person which is probably more important for me than many others addressing their situations. I do tend to pick up on the smallest of things and I do remember reading a post from close to 10 years ago where I said to myself this is a good guy and my experience has proved that to be true. Anyone that thinks this doesn't matter in this business I pity you but wish you the best as no one deserves to be treated poorly or disfigured.

My experience with HT over the years has been a blessing in many ways as I am much more aware. Most especially I have stayed far away from doctors and outside of the HT procedures I have not been to a doctor in over 28 years. As a group I have found most of them to be self absorbed, arrogant with egos that are in constant need of feeding and I'm being very nice here. This makes it very difficult when asking questions as most do not like to be questioned and would rather you just shut up and listen to them, trust me bad idea.

I will be turning 50 in a couple of weeks and I must say I have never felt better and been happier in my life. Maybe some of those that are consumed with only money at the expense of others should take note here as it has also been my experience that they are usually unhappy people and eventually pay the price for their ways. Greed for more and more money is hardly a worthy goal but it still seems to be prevalent in the ht industry.

Don't let my posting style deceive you in regards to how happy I am in my own personal life. I am just too old and don't have time to waste with bullshit so I like to tell like I see it no one needs to read it or agree with it, just look at the showcase results if that is what pleases you. If what I have to say helps someone great as that makes me feel like I have done some good and doing good makes me happy. If someone in the industry doesn't like what I have to say than too bad as how much money you make is not important to me.

I have posted some photos below taken within the last 7 days both before and after using no concealer than what it looked like with concealer before and after along with pictures of my chest and beard donor areas as they appear today after having 529 fue extracted from a very small area around the chin due to my lack of having a very heavy beard along with 216 chest fue. The scalp donor has been 961 fue mostly from the lateral humps.

I believe the small procedures with small hand tools have resulted in both superior yield and healing. I also believe nutrition is paramount in the healing process and I follow specific protocols that have been tested through my own hands on experience throughout the years in which I believe I have separated what is truth from what is fallacy no different than what I have had to do with hair transplantation. I do not believe there is an adjuvant therapy that even compares to nutrition in the healing process regardless of what some of these bloated windbag doctors out there seem to be promoting at any given time, just take a real good look at the source. Don't fall into the trap of complying because some clown is wearing a white coat.

I have also found that there are many on the forums that have never had a procedure in their life but they somehow feel they are in a position to advise others. I suggest finding out who these people are through phone conversations or in person meetings before taking their advice.

I have shaved the chest area down to a 1 guard. It's mostly gray but I will take whatever I can get.

I will update upon my return. Looking forward to taking a couple hundred punches to the face.













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I should add there are a few posters who have never had a procedure that are honest and do know what they are talking about but the number is very small.

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Good luck Tomorrow, Top..... keep us updated with some photo's and your progress...

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Thank you, will be walking over to the clinic in about 30 minutes.

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Best wishes for a successful and pain-free surgery Topcat.

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we'll be pulling for you.

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Hi Topcat - hope the surgery went well. You really deserve it, your knowledge and input over the years has helped so many people.

I have sent you a PM, please read if you are still in brussels
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Hi guys didn't expect of update this early as I am still in Brussels but I wanted to show the beard donor after 233 extractions from a very small area using a very small hand punch. This picture I just took and the procedure was 6 hours ago. The healing really is amazing.





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Donor and recipient at 12 hours







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These pictures represent the healing of the donor areas at approximately 24 hours. No adjuvant therapy was used during the healing process outside of nutritional support. Personally I tend to eat more cholesterol than most which is excellent for wound healing, most doctors would advise against. So where did all those tiny holes made by the small hand punch go? It's called healing, that is what the body does with very small wounds.








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Less than 48 hours and the body is doing exactly what it should be doing providing a small hand fue punch was used with no outside therapies necessary outside of nutritional support. Where have most of the extraction sites gone as they seem to be disappearing? How is this possible as the healing is quicker than those using Acell. Upclose pictures presented within certain time frames always speak far more than words.

Large sessions and large punches leave a bloody mess that does not heal well, it's really not that hard to figure out as it seems to be common sense or at least is should be.





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hey topcat! is this all beard hair only that u have used as donor in all these procedures?
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Sam the first 2 procedures were approximately 800 fue each with a mixture of scalp, chest and beard. This 3rd procedure was a mixture of both beard and scalp of 564 fue.

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thanx for clearing this up to me... is beard hair good for hair transplant topcat? i am askin this because i have superthick beard! and your progress looks good.
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I would say in depends on the caliber as it all has to match up somewhat and is probably best used when used mixed with scalp hair and well behind the hairline.

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This is a 3 day update and I will update again at 7 days and then 1 month to show the healing process. The beard area at this point shows only faint areas of discoloration which I expect to be completely gone by day 7. For those that are in a situation of being a repair patient or simply not having the available donor it is an option but I would suggest approaching it very slowly and limit your risk as much as possible.

I suggest if anyone on these forums does not provide substantial proof of anything than if you believe them you are a complete fool and will very likely regret it one day. Although I did not have chest hairs extracted this time around which I might add I have found to be slightly painful that area also has no signs of a procedure being performed something everyone should strive for as having visible scars is no fun.



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Healing well so far. I really hope this long process you've been through leads to satisfaction with your hair.

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Thanks Matt. it has actually made a huge difference so far for me and I don't mind making small improvments over time. My hair is fine the way it is now but if I can still make it better I will try no big hurry. I'm 50 it's just not as much of an issue as when I was 30.

Plus over time one realizes taking huge risks makes no sense and it is better to learn patience.

A good example is health and fitness. Everything I have done has been a long slow process but in the end I have been better off for it.

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This will be my last picture update for at least 1 month. This shows the lateral hump area which is approximately 18 sq cm. In total approximately 600 fue were taken over 3 sessions. Probably much more than is normally taken over this much surface area but this was at my request as I would like to even out the top with the sides as best I can. In my opinion the healing has been excellent and this picture is being taken at the 6 day point from the procedure.

Yes I do like big up close pictures as small blurry pictures are pointless to post.



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Since the healing has gone exceptionally well I decided to provide an early update. Still consuming about a dozen raw eggs a day which is normal for me but usually I have them soft boiled. The extra cholesterol and fat are really good for the skin in my opinion and if you do enough research on cholesterol you would understand that it is very beneficial unless of course if you are selling Lipitor.

I asked Dr. Bisanga to just go ahead and shave my head to make it easier but he just shaved a small area on each lateral hump and left the rest alone including the recipient. Now I don't have to explain why I'm wearing a hat at the Thanksgiving dinner table. With just a little concealer I'm already almost back to normal. These pictures are 9 days post op.

I will not shave for at least 3 more weeks and have only trimmed the hairs with a beard trimmer so as not to exfoliate the skin.










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Here is my update of the lateral hump area on the scalp before the hair grows too long. I have had approximately 600 fue's taken from this area over 3 procedures with the majority coming from this 18 sq cm area. The procedure was 2 weeks ago and the previous procedures were 2 and 3 years ago. The harvesting is probably higher than normal at my request and it looks very normal to me.




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TC it's getting there your at a 35 to 40cm now i gather with some length and a bit of concealer
you should be able to part your hair and not have to disguise with precaution

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Thanks baldilocks.

Regardless of what so many say slow and steady progress is the best approach, very little risk to the patient and that should always be at the top of the list. Maybe I'm just old but nobody should be taking huge risks and doctors should be advising them of the same. In my opinion that would eliminate so much that is wrong with this industry.

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Hey Topcat, thanks for posting these photos and sharing your most recent experience with all of us. I hope that it works out great for you and that you are able to obtain even more hair peace. You always seem to have very informative posts that are always full of candor and your photos are always of superb quality. I'm sure that your posts throughout the years have been a great help to others whether they eventually decided to undertake some procedure or to not do anything at all.

I believe that you use Prothik? Correct me if I'm wrong. Anyways, what I wanted to know is how soon Dr. Bisanga allows you to use concealer after he performs surgery on you, and if the type of concealer used after surgery could have some sort of effect on the grafts growing (perhaps spray and sprinkle concealers are safer for grafts than applicator type ones?). From what I've seen, it seems that you have used concealer on a regular basis since starting your surgeries with Dr. Bisanga.

I have seen and spoken with Jotronic quite a few times and he and I kind of both were in accordance that if one is ever to do any type of surgery for anywhere on the head where one uses concealer, then one would have to abstain from using concealer for the next year, just to be on the absolute safe side. One possible reason for poor graft growth is too much concealer use.

Did you yourself use concealer before you ever went to Dr. Bisanga or only afterwards? I'm not knocking you in any way, but did it ever cross your mind to actually not use it after your 1st surgery with the doc or not at all? Also, do you use concealer every single day, some days and do you ever just get tired of the concealer and just wear a hat? How long does it generally take you to apply it?

Also, how do family and friends react to your slight and steady hair improvements? Are they impressed? Do they ever make any comments? How many of them know that you use concealer?

Anyways, once again I wish you all the best over the next few months as far as healing and growing are concerned. Keep the photos coming from time to time as they are a great benefit to all of us. Thanks, bro!

P.S. If I have added correctly, you have had a total of 2270 FUE grafts (scalp, beard and chest) with Dr. Bisanga through 3 procedures? Also, what were the FUE counts (scalp, beard and chest) for your 1st procedure with Dr. Bisanga?

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Wow that's a lot of questions.....lol.......

Yes I use Prothik and in my opinion it is very good and easy to use. I use it daily and have been for over 20 years but I'm at the point now where I need to apply very little. I didn't ask Dr. Bisanga about concealers, use my own judgement and take full responsibility for it's use. I started using concealer about 2 weeks after the procedure and at that point it was completely healed 100% in fact it was healed completely at 1 week.

I don't believe concealer has a negative effect once the area is healed and I say that through my own experience. I would also add that in my opinion diet is much more important in the healing process than much of what is recommended, once again my opinion through my own experience of how the body builds itself up or breaks itself down. I ate a dozen raw eggs daily after my procedure along with other foods I thought would be beneficial but once again I take full responsibility for that and didn't ask the clinic.

It takes me less than 1 minute to apply concealer. Basically I apply to my head when my hair is wet. First lightly spray the scars that a very light spray to the top. Applying this way reducing the reflection of light off the scalp while still keeping much of it off the hair strand itself. This way you don't lose the natural highlight of the hair which to me is a dead giveaway that someone is using concealer. You don't want you hair to look matte only the scalp. I don't really apply any to the hairline area about 2 cm or so.

It didn't occur to me not to use the concealer after everything was healed because I don't really like wearing hats. Although for that first surgery almost my whole head was shaved so I did where a hat for about 3 months.

My wife is the only family member that knows I am currently having some work done. She is actually amazed that I have so much more hair. It honestly didn't matter to her before but a few times she couldn't help but stare and comment on the improvement and it was sincere as I could see that look on her face of trying to figure it out.....lol.....not too many people know I use concealer, my wife and my mom.

The improvements are so subtle over time that no one really takes notice outside of my wife. I mean we are talking about 3 small procedures over 4 years, doesn't get more subtle than that. Works very well for me as going small makes it affordable and very easy to get back to normal again. Many don't agree with this but I know just from training that those that make small steady gains over time take very little risk and always have something to show for it one only needs to be patient.

For my first procedure Dr. Bisanga was able to extract 828 grafts, 490 scalp, 238 beard and 100 chest.

Thanks for the well wishes. I always appreciated others that posted their own stories and photos in the past so I try to do the same. It's important to take the time as too many look for help but don't want to give help. I will admit some of the a-holes in this industry sometimes wear me down but I'm not just going to walk away I make the time.

The best advice I could give you with your experience of having 5100 grafts and not achieving good growth is to go very slow especially in the beginning. Have the smallest procedure possible and assess it for yourself no matter which clinic you choose. You really have to take that personal responsibility. I would say that smaller procedures offer higher yield and better healing at least that has been my experience so far.

Let me know if I missed something.

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While in Brussels I got a really good book recommendation from another repair patient "Think Fast and Slow". I have read in the past others stating that repair patients seem to analyze their thought process to greater extent than most due to the experience that they have gone through, overall I would agree but I would consider that something positive.

Some repair patients seem to move on while others stay hoping to help others. Many of them are labelled as having an agenda or some ulterior motives, I guess others just don't get it. It actually feels good to help keep the industry as honest as possible while exposing some lies and half truths along the way. The book I was recommended puts it quite succinctly.

"Neuroeconomists have used MRI machines to examine the brains of people who are engaged in punishing one stranger for behaving unfairly to another stranger. Remarkably, altruistic punishment is accompanied by increased activity in the "pleasure centers" of the brain. It appears maintaining social order and the rules of fairness in this fashion is its own reward. Altruistic punishment could well be the glue that holds societies together."

So if one considers not letting someone else bully or screw over another human being an agenda then so be it. Yes I do get some pleasure from pointing out much of what many in the industry would like to keep hidden or oh we don't talk about that, that's too negative. One only needs to Google hair transplant and white dotting, hair transplant and necrosis or hair transplant and repair, you will find the many whom have disappeared, what you see will shock you and this is only the tip of the iceberg. These are not cases from 10-20 years ago it is what's still going on today. This is what happens when money becomes one's prime motivator. But don't be sad that greed does come with a price to be paid most often in health related issues as we are starting to see in some, yes greed has dreaded disease as it's co-pilot so enjoy the ride. Unfortunately those that were willing to damage others in their quest will not be taking suitcases of money with them, the suitcases stay behind, sorry.

I'm guessing this is also why I have no need for alcohol or drugs as it's not needed when compared to the feeling of truly helping another while many in this industry have that need to numb the pain they feel from maybe causing harm to others.

I will be updating my pictures in another week or so after I shave.

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Here is my 1 month update although it's more like 5 weeks. I wanted to wait until I shaved and since I have quite a few ingrown hairs it took a little longer. Still very early in the healing process and so far going very well. The skin under the chin seems to be a little thinner and taking a little longer to heal similar to what I experienced with the chest extractions on the previous 2 procedures. So far I have had close to 700 beard hairs extracted from this small area around and under my chin.

For the recipient area I left my hair wet so you that a better view of the skin could be viewed.





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Here is an interesting article on one of the clinics from my past and yes the handyman/animal skinner did work on my head. I know there are a few others here that have had the unfortunate experience of going to the same clinic so they might want to read it. I guess I can look back on it and laugh. I was so naive to just believe what these doctors were telling me.

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Here is my 2 month update. The only issues that I have had were some ingrown hairs under the chin that finally seem to be going away. What I have found is that a mixture of powdered aspirin and witch hazel works very well but benzoyl peroxide works even better and I can tell the difference in only a few days. This is something I do on my own. It was not suggested by the clinic nor do I ask the clinic. I prefer to just take care of myself and my own aftercare and take full responsibility for whatever I do. Should you do the same as I do, that is up to you.

Outside of eating my usually 12 or more eggs a day and massive amounts of Vitamin C through food extracts I have been eating more turkey wing soup. When it chills it is complete gelatin. All three items listed have a huge affect on collagen and skin healing.

I have had approximately 750 beard hair grafts extracted from this small area.




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Regarding a question I have been asked about the beard hair not falling out and continuing to grow. Initially I wrote that to be honest I really can't tell as there is just too much hair there. My wife commented on my hair for some reason yesterday, about how it's really coming in which made me laugh a little as I explained to her it has only been 8 weeks the hair will not start growing in until at least 12 weeks. But I must admit that my hair looks so much better even at this early point and the goal of this last procedure was to be able to style my hair my towards the side and not down towards my forehead. This was all to achieve a more natural looking appearance, well I have that right now so maybe many of those hairs stayed.

What I do know is that if you look at the recipient area you will see hairs coming in already. So yes when I do see postings regarding Acell and early growth at the 3 month mark it does make me laugh. Early growth compared to what?



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Looking forward to seeing the results once this session has a chance to grow in....Top, did you notice any white dotting on the chin area this past summer as you tanned? or do you avoid the sun?

When He took grafts from your scalp, which area were they taken from? I'm guessing sides of the head over the ears?

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Yes NE the sides above the ears but Dr. Bisanga would like to be careful not to thin the area out too much. In all honesty zero white dotting on my face or chest and I personally believe in getting a lot of Sun so I would be good case to judge.

The only issue has been ingrown hairs which are pretty much gone now. It seems that most of the suggestions from clinics have been to put some type of ointment on the area but what I have found is that powdered aspirin mixed with witch hazel works very well and something that works even better is benzoyl peroxide which I have just recently found out. But this is something I do on my own and take full responsibility for.

I got a question regarding if the beard hairs kept growing I really can't tell as there is too much hair there now. But what I can say is my hair is better than it has ever been at the 2 month mark even my wife commented. So I'm looking forward to the result 10 months from now.

My suggestion would be to just test a few hairs if you decide to go with beard. Originally I only wanted 25 when I first got to Brussels........lol...........I can laugh about it now............but Dr. Bisanga assured me that 200 would be very safe and it really went well so I glad I went along with the plan.

I would also add that I am very specific about my diet just kind of a quirk for me that has developed over time and I do think it does matter a great deal.

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That's good to hear about the face dotting and sun. We did take a few beard hairs to test into the scar so when I see him in March, we can evaluate everything. I'd like to stick with scalp hair if I can. I asked about he sides because I have zero sings of scaring, thinning, or dotting in those areas of donor.

benzoyl peroxide.... the acne med? How did you come up with that idea? Have you considered Lysine?

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Well I don't really like to use individual amino acids and prefer to eat whole protein from whole food. I consume at least a dozen eggs a day mostly raw so plenty of lysine there on top of whatever else I decide to eat.

The salicylic acid in the aspirin seems to be what makes aspirin a very effective and well known remedy for ingrown hairs while also being included in many acne preparations. It helps to lower the inflammation, greatly reduce the itching, and help to exfoliate some of the skin over the ingrown hair. Benzoyl peroxide seems to do the same thing only better and it's easier to apply just to the target area and that is where I got the idea thinking that it might work better and it does infinitely better.

Of course one should be concerned about the exfoliation that is going on by applying either aspirin or benzoyl peroxide but in my opinion the healing is going on from the inside out not the outside in so as long as the body has what it needs to do what it does than I don't think it is a problem.

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Here is my 3 month update. My skin is a little red around the chin area as I was applying benzoyl peroxide to help alleviate the in grown hairs. They have gone away and once I start applying some moisturizer I'm certain the redness will also be gone. I'm sure most would not agree with the remedy for the ingrown hairs including the clinic but it worked very well for me where the moisturizers seemed to make it worse.

Outside of that everything has healed up very well.








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Hi TC

Thanks for updating as usual.

Hope all is well for you and you are back to the training regime and am sure you are.

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Hi SL thanks for asking as I have been more motivated than ever as a result of the improvement with the hair situation. Working on a few fitness ideas and have dropped about 30 lbs since the start of my repair with another 15lbs or so to go. I must say this is the best I have ever felt and that makes me happy.

The pictures of the chin actually look worse than in person. But the combination of benzoyl peroxide and cold Chicago weather have chafed my skin a bit but no worries on my end as I am now using my regular skin cream.

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Here are the pictures I promised 2 weeks after I stopped using benzoyl peroxide as the ingrown hairs that I was experiencing were really making me crazy. As I have written it probably had more to do with the thinner skin under the chin but that is just a guess. As I have also written I take full responsibility for my healing process and in no way has the clinic recommended that I apply benzoyl peroxide to those ingrown hairs. In a few more weeks I fully expect the area to be pristine once again and I have had approximately 750 beard hair grafts from that small area. Although sometimes I don't show it this has made such a huge difference for me that I can't even begin to tell you.



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Thanks for the update and hope the healing continues well.

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I'm glad you're healing well. Have you always had ingrowing hairs on your chin?

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No Matt in fact I have never had ingrown hairs. The ingrown hairs are a direct result of having beard hair harvested. When the donor area was higher up on the chin it was not a big issue but underneath the chin for me at least I did have quite a few. I was not worried about it but they are very annoying and can only go away in time.

I decided to show these new pictures as showing all that redness from using the benzoyl peroxide is really not fair to the clinic. That redness was caused by me because I would rather deal with the redness than wait longer for the ingrown hairs to away.

It's important for me to post this information so that others know this is a possibility. There is nothing to hide it's called being completely honest and that is what everyone should strive for being honest. I don't need to blur my pictures or not post pictures in fact I do exactly the opposite and this is good for everyone I'm sure you would agree.

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I needed new batteries for my camera so this picture was taken after I applied some concealer. This is at 5 months after my 3rd procedure of approximately 500 grafts. The goal was to place them in the frontal 1/3 in hopes that I could use zero concealer in that area and use it only about halfway back on my head. At this point I am ecstatic as I have reached that goal, no more Justin Bieber style for this 50 year old.

Another reason I wanted to eliminate the use of concealer on the front half of my head is that without it the look is much more natural and exactly why although I always have the reflex expectation of someone looking at my hairline during a conversation it just does not happen anymore.......lol..........that is a really great feeling.

I also had an incident that happened several years ago with a female co-worker. She went to wipe my forehead with a tissue because she saw what she thought was dirt...........lol...............talk about being stressed out, but I can laugh about it now. Without having to use concealer in the front half that is no longer an issue.

I will update without concealer in the next few days. It's still very early but so far I'm very happy.



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Below are a set of pictures showing my progression with the bottom picture being 5 months after my 3 procedure using a combination of scalp, beard and chest hair. BTW if you look closely at that first picture you will see what appears to be an open sore. Those were the smaller ones and I had one much larger slightly back. Those open sores I along with many others that had certain procedures were there for over 10 years. Of course they were worrisome but one just puts it towards the back of there mind and tries to forget about it. Ever since I had fue's planted in that area it has all completely disappeared.









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I wanted to share this picture mostly with anyone who is a repair patient or just has a bad hair transplant. I got up very early this morning having to do some outside work and was caught in a very heavy downpour. Normally I would have to stop working and take cover or put on a hat as many ht patients know sometimes this procedure can completely alter your life and most don't understand until it happens to them.

Anyway I was able to continue to work and not worry for me that's incredible progress.



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Topcat, in that last rain picture do you have concealer in?

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Vin,

I don't think it is concealer. It is the light source being brighter behind him and off to the side than the light source in front of him (which looks like from his monitor). Regardless, this is good progress. Good for you!

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Yes I still need concealer just for the scars at the back of the head and just a very small amount up on top at least 4-5 cm behind the hairline. I do use hairsprapy and there is probably some light reflecting but the light source is in front of me not sure how many watts but very bright fluorescent, best I can do for now.

Thanks for the comments guys.

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Wow, Topcat! You sir have come a LONG way and must be thrilled with your progress! Congrats.
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That's great, Topcat! I'm happy that you have nearly come to the end of your hair loss worrries/issues. I'm gonna have to meet up with you next time I happen to be up in the Chicago area.

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TC great your progressing your getting there buddy. If your going to push the envelope I would ask Christian to work just a tad bit 1/16 in front of the existing hairline with about 350 fu where there is no scar tissue and hover with another 400 all along the 3/4 part this way with a bit of concealer you could pull the hair back a bit.

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Any time Vin.

Baldielocks you read my mind..........lol...........I can almost do that now and that is probably what's most exciting. What you wrote is exactly what I would like to do and that would be a huge transformation, thanks for the comment.

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The worst part about this is that topcat is a classically good candidate for a HT procedure. A fairly limited 4A with loss concentrated towards the front and sides are still high after all these years and no fin. A reasonably sized procedure in the hands of a good surgeon would have likely yielded a very good result.
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KO maybe a little higher as the sides have been drastically pulled up from those hairlifts. It comes to down to having the right information at the right time and regardless of what subject we are speaking about 90+%of the population does not have the correct information because it takes too much time and work to find out and that has not changed even in hair transplantation. So people tend to take the easy road and asked the paid expert..........lol...........or just post to a forum where should I go.............

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6 months post op

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These pictures at 6 months taken outside in daylight are very exciting for me. I don't need to use concealer in the hairline. That coupled with the skin taking on a natural tone from the sun because of no concealer plus the slight hair lightening effect makes my hairline look completely natural at this point as the contrast is greatly reduced.

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Hi topcat,

Seems to be progressing well.

I'm aware that you aren't a fan of strip, but I'm curious if your donor area would still supply enough grafts for one. Are you using beard hair because your scalp donor is very poor, or just to avoid using scalp donor?

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Hi Matt,

Personally I think strip is fine for those who choose it for their specific needs and when the procedure is fully explained with both the good and bad so I wouldn't say that I'm anti strip. Knowing what I know now would I choose strip, no. But I also would be happier with less hair as the trade off if that were the case.

My issue as far as the industry is concerned is just wanting to see more honesty. It is very easy to fool young guys under 30 and the more of them I speak with in general and it doesn't have to be ht the more I realize and say to myself wow these guys are completely clueless about how the world works. Of course we could also say that about those that are older but it especially applies to these young guys.

It would be absolutely impossible for me to have a strip at this point as the donor in that region has been completely devastated. Not really any hair left there to harvest along with an extremely tight scalp makes it not an option.

The current approach in my opinion makes the most sense and it's become a personal philosophy over the years for me slow and steady in improvement in all areas of my life.

Thanks for asking and I hope your own procedure and healing go just as well. I think sometimes many in the industry believe I have some type of an agenda when in reality the way I speak and write is the same regardless of the subject even worse for geopolitics or nutrition as I believe I know more than most. Sometimes I'm just brutally honest and many just don't want to hear it. My main concern is that everyone have as much information as possible both good and bad so that they can make better decisions.

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topcat if you had no scars would you just shave it all off?
looking good btw
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Hi Tommo,

I'm not sure I understand the question so correct me if I'm wrong. I would love to be able to shave the sides and back down and just have hair on top while framing the face as in my opinion it's a good look. But I have way too much scarring for that.

Would I just shave my head if I had never taken this route in the first place 25 years ago............hmmmm..........hard to say. I think the look would fit me very well but in all honesty I think the best look would be having fue to frame the face leave the crown bald if that is the situation and keep the hair cut very short. That in my opinion makes the absolute most sense and is a very good look. That coupled with being fit and some color to your skin is ideal in my opinion and what most should opt for.

In reality I don't think having a super dense hairline is a good idea. Just a mature hairline with enough density to frame the face. Most men are candidates for this type of procedure and in my opinion it is a safe approach. Of course if someone is going to be a NW 6 or 7 even this would probably not be a good idea.

This is also providing the doctor performing the procedure has the skills to make whatever hair that is placed look like it is suppose to be there.

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Hi Tommo,



I'm not sure I understand the question so correct me if I'm wrong. I would love to be able to shave the sides and back down and just have hair on top while framing the face as in my opinion it's a good look. But I have way too much scarring for that.



Would I just shave my head if I had never taken this route in the first place 25 years ago............hmmmm..........hard to say. I think the look would fit me very well but in all honesty I think the best look would be having fue to frame the face leave the crown bald if that is the situation and keep the hair cut very short. That in my opinion makes the absolute most sense and is a very good look. That coupled with being fit and some color to your skin is ideal in my opinion and what most should opt for.



In reality I don't think having a super dense hairline is a good idea. Just a mature hairline with enough density to frame the face. Most men are candidates for this type of procedure and in my opinion it is a safe approach. Of course if someone is going to be a NW 6 or 7 even this would probably not be a good idea.



This is also providing the doctor performing the procedure has the skills to make whatever hair that is placed look like it is suppose to be there.


I think your right, if your bald and fit with a bit of a tan it doesn't look so bad. I would also agree that a little bit of fue on top from a good doc would be the the way to go, when your younger you just want it all back which can lead to disastrous results.

Do you worry about getting too much sun mate? i only ask because you seem to sporting a tan all the time. Here in Australia you cant go out in the sun for more than 10min without getting burnt.
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Tommo that's a good question about the sun and my beliefs and experiences over the years have taught me something different. I eat a lot of cholesterol and a very high amount of saturated fat. You see saturated fat is very stable unlike the little bit of fat that most consume which is vegetable based. That vegetable based oil except for coconut and olive oil is high in omega 6, very unstable, rancid in fact and generates a huge amount of free radicals in the body. So imagine that combination of Sun and oil............hmmmm..........is it the sun or is it the food. Might have to take a good look at human history to figure that one out. Imagine the implications for the food industry if this were actually believed to be true, not a very pretty picture indeed. So no after all these years I am quite confident in what I do and have lost that fear. I could easily eat 20 eggs in a day and not give it a second thought and do it in the sun.........lol.............

I could go on and on with so many examples like look at people that swim in chlorinated pools. Chlorine is a poison so if they develop skin cancer is it the chlorine or the sun. What about the person that sits under florescent lighting all year long than decides to go down to Mexico for one week and sit in the blistering sun at high noon with chemicals slathered all over their skin.

Look at Angelie Jolie she will cut her breasts off but what about all the phalates in the makeup that she wears, the ink that collects in her lymph nodes from those tattoos, or the fact that she seems to get no sun and her body ends up producing very little vitamin D along with the fact that tight bras restrict the flow of lymph fluid and the evidence is there that is greatly increases breast cancer. I guess what I'm saying is the answer is not so simple but those that are making the really really big money would like you to think so and that is something in which I have absolutely no doubt.

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IDK maybe it's just me but I see all these pasty obese people walking around on all types of medications either that or they are heavily inked and pierced and they all have cell phones glued to their heads and to be honest sometimes I can't believe what I'm seeing.............lol............am I going to convince these people...........lol..........hell no and I wouldn't even try but I do find it all interesting and this is something I can thank the HT industry for and that in my opinion has been a very good thing for me as I have never felt better in my life. Imagine not being to doctor for 30+ years...........trust me that's a good thing too.

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I thought I would shave the sides down as I like the look better and it gives others a chance to see my scalp donor as all the scalp fue's were taken from the sides.

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I wanted to post this picture of the hair combed back away from the face as I have been getting bolder, just testing at this point. With concealer only in the crown and strip scars and the sides cut down short it is really looking natural in my opinion and that is the ultimate goal just to look normal.

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My 3rd procedure 7 month update. I have cut the sides short and I do not have any visible white dotting on my scalp or on my face. All these pictures are without using concealer. I tried to take a close up of the temple region where I have some ridging from past procedures using robust grafts in the hairline. That work with the robust grafts was performed by a very shady operation here in Chicago, The Thomas/Elliott group. I point this out for 2 reasons it's the only thing at this point keeping me from combing my hair back away from the face so when you hear of robotic devices extracting robust grafts, robust in this context is not a good thing in my opinion.

I really like shaving my sides very close to the scalp now in fact it has grown out somewhat in these pictures. Taking more fue's from the sides I think might very well be a viable option but I will see how things go and just take it one step at a time.

On a side note something happened that I thought was worth mentioning. A very well established trainer here in Chicago asked my about Acupuncture for a pulled muscle in his back as he told me he really respects my opinion. Well of course I prefer Eastern medicine over Western medicine as it works with the body's own healing ability and not against it with slash, burn, and poison. The conversation gave me the opportunity to ask him about all his tattoos which most of the MMA guys have. I asked him if he was worried about the ink building up in his lymph nodes and I was shocked that he knew what I was talking about. He laughed it off a bit but did tell me he had a lymph node removed from his groin but that it was due to repetitive power cleans which is a lift that sometimes performed with the bar resting in that area. I think the tattooing would really be an easy answer to not having to use concealer but the risk I believe is there and I certainly do not need more issues to deal with, just my opinion.

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Tommo since you asked about the UV exposure I am posting the article below. I believe it to be 100% through my own research and experience. I also believe it's a good example of how information is manipulated. People seem to just believe what they are told I no longer consider myself part of that group, I question it all.



June 4, 2013 by MARCO TORRES

The Sun Is Heating Up And It's Time To Ignore Every Single Message You Hear About Slathering On Sunscreen

The idea that sunscreen prevents cancer is a falsity promoted by a profit-seeking tag-team effort between the cancer industry and the sunscreen industry. How convenient an oversight by these demonizers of the sun that people closest to the equator have the lowest incidence of skin cancer, but you'll never hear that message on your local news. Instead, as the summer approaches the media bombards us daily with myths that blocking the sun's rays from reaching our skin will somehow protect us from the one thing it actually prevents--cancer.


Blocking the sun's rays from reaching our skin dramatically influences our optimal vitamin D levels, leading to higher mortality, critical illness and mental health disorders. Ironically, sunscreen itself causes cancer.


A Tale of Corruption and Deception

The sunscreen industry makes money by selling lotion products that actually contain cancer-causing chemicals. It then donates a portion of that money to the cancer industry through non-profit groups like Cancer Societies which, in turn, run heart-breaking public service ads and charity events such as Relay For Life urging people to donate and use sunscreen to "prevent cancer."


The cancer establishment has retreated from the truth. What began as sincere investigation into the economic root causes of a complex set of 200 different diseases, at the turn of the 20th century, quickly degenerated into a single-minded focus. All cancer societies are now dedicated to funding drug companies to "find the cure" that will never exist, at least not from any mainstream institution.


Devra Davis, one of North America's sharpest epidemiologists "Astonishing alliances between naive or far too clever academics and folks with major economic interests in selling potentially cancerous materials have kept us from figuring out whether or not many modern products affect our chances of developing cancer." She has documented how some of the world's most prominent cancer researchers secretly worked for chemical firms without disclosing these ties when publishing studies.


Davis' work will rob you of any lingering, Disney-like fantasies you might have entertained about the nobility of cancer fundraising campaigns actually doing some good the cancer patients. Please DON'T support American or Canadian Cancer Societies or Relays For Life.


Many grants funding cancer research are supported by the National Cancer Institute (NCI) and the Melanoma Research Foundation. The NCI is the same federally funded (and privately funded by Big Pharma) organization that promotes mammography via ionizing radiation. In fact they are one of the biggest mammography promoters in the nation. They are directly managed by the biotech sector and typically employ pharmaceutical executives on their boards.


The Melanoma Research Foundation (MRF) is filled with scientific advisory members with conflicts interests statements littering their academic work. The decision makers at MRF are all current or former pharmaceutical executives or board members.


Why Sunscreen Will Never Prevent Cancer And May Cause It

The Sun does not cause cancer. Researchers have concluded that UVA exposure has not contributed to the rise in the incidence of melanoma over the past 30 years. UVA makes up 90 percent of the ultraviolet light spectrum of sunlight.


"Our data refute the only direct evidence that UVA causes melanoma, which is not to say that UVA is harmless," said the study's lead author David Mitchell, Ph.D., professor in M. D. Anderson's Department of Carcinogenesis located at its Science Park -- Research Division in Smithville, Texas. "UVA is just not as dangerous as we thought because it doesn't cause melanoma."


Both UVA and UVB can cause tanning and burning, although UVB does so far more rapidly. UVA, however, penetrates your skin more deeply than UVB.


UVB appears to be protective against melanoma -- or rather, the vitamin D your body produces in response to UVB radiation is protective.
As written in The Lancet:
"Paradoxically, outdoor workers have a decreased risk of melanoma compared with indoor workers, suggesting that chronic sunlight exposure can have a protective effect."
So if UVA and UVB do not cause melanoma, why use sunscreen?
Skin cancer rates are increasing and the so-called experts are STILL blaming the sun for a problem manufactured right here on earth.


If the sun was REALLY causing skin cancer, and if sunscreen prevented it, we'd be cancer-free by now. We're already spending less time outside than ever, and wasting billions of dollars a year on needless, dangerous creams and lotions.
Meanwhile, just a couple of generations ago, we spent far more time out in the sun and ZILCH on sunscreen -- and skin cancer was practically unheard of.


After decades of debate, several governments have failed to set mandatory sunscreen safety standards. Companies are free to make their own decisions on everything from advertising claims to product quality. The underlying message is that sunscreen applications are presently carrying risks that far outweigh any benefit to the public.


Comprehensive scientific reviews indicate that 83% of 785 sunscreen products contain ingredients with significant safety concerns. Only 17% of the products on the market block both UVA and UVB radiation which is the intended purpose by manufacturers of sunscreen, so what's the point? The assessment by the Environmental Working Group's Skin Deep database was based on a review of nearly 400 scientific studies, industry models of sunscreen efficacy, and toxicity and regulatory information housed in nearly 60 government, academic, and industry databases.
At least 50% of products on the market bear claims that are considered "unacceptable" or misleading under sunscreen safety standards. An analysis of marketing claims on hundreds of sunscreen bottles shows that false and misleading marketing claims are common. They give consumers a false sense of security (based on myths) with claims like "all day protection," "mild as water," and "blocks all harmful rays" which are completely untrue, yet are found on bottles. Consumers might assume that, because researchers have implicated ultraviolet light in skin cancer development, sunscreen automatically thwarts skin cancer. They play on this consumer bandwagon of fear and hope on an issue shouldn't even be an issue...blocking the sun!

A review of the technical literature shows that some sunscreen ingredients absorb into the blood, and some are linked to toxic effects. Some release skin-damaging free radicals in sunlight, some act like estrogen and could disrupt hormone systems, several are strongly linked to allergic reactions, and still others may build up in the body or the environment.
Almost two dozen law suits have been filed against Johnson & Johnson Inc., Schering-Plough Corp., Playtex Products Inc., Tanning Research Laboratories Inc. and Chattem Inc involving some of the most popular brands, including Coppertone, Banana Boat, Hawaiian Tropic, Bullfrog and Neutrogena -- charge that manufacturers inflate claims about sunscreens, lulling consumers into believing their products are safe when they have shown to CAUSE cancer.


Almost half of the 500 most popular sunscreen products may actually increase the speed at which malignant cells develop and spread skin cancer because they contain vitamin A or its derivatives retinol and retinyl palmitate which accelerate tumor growth.


In a year-long study, tumors and lesions developed up to 21 percent faster in lab animals coated in a vitamin A-laced cream than animals treated with a vitamin-free cream, a report by EWG stated based on their analysis of initial findings released by the FDA and the National Toxicology Program,


Based on the strength of the findings by FDA's own scientists, many in the public health community say they can't believe nor understand why the agency hasn't already notified the public of the possible danger.


Scientists have reported that particle size affects the toxicity of zinc oxide, a material widely used in sunscreens. Particles smaller than 100 nanometers are slightly more toxic to colon cells than conventional zinc oxide. Solid zinc oxide was more toxic than equivalent amounts of soluble zinc, and direct particle to cell contact was required to cause cell death. Their study is in ACS' Chemical Research in Toxicology, a monthly journal.


The Environmental Working Group who previously analyzed 15 studies on nanoparticles on sunscreen said that no investigations have ever assessed absorption through damaged skin. Such data is missing "for nearly all of the 17 sunscreen chemicals approved for use in the U.S." The scientists note that a concern is children accidentally ingesting nano-sized zinc oxide.


Another common and toxic ingredient in sunscreens is titanium dioxide. New research published in ACS' journal, Environmental Science & Technology found that Children may be receiving the highest exposure to nanoparticles of titanium dioxide. The geometry of titanium dioxide (TiO2) based nanofilaments appears to play a crucial role in cytotoxicity having a strong dose-dependent effect on cell proliferation and cell death.


A comprehensive study conducted by researchers at UCLA's Jonsson Comprehensive Cancer found that titanium dioxide (TiO2) nanoparticles, found in everything from cosmetics to sunscreen to paint to vitamins, caused systemic genetic damage in mice. The TiO2 nanoparticles induced single- and double-strand DNA breaks and also caused chromosomal damage as well as inflammation, all of which increase the risk for cancer.


Vitamin D From The Sun is The Key In Preventing Disease

The scientific evidence, however, shows quite clearly that sunscreen actually promotes cancer by blocking the body's absorption of ultraviolet radiation, which produces vitamin D in the skin. Vitamin D, as recent studies have shown, prevents up to 77 of ALL cancers in women (breast cancer, colon cancer, cervical cancer, lung cancer, brain tumors, multiple myeloma, etc). Meanwhile, the toxic chemical ingredients used in most sunscreen products are actually carcinogenic and have never been safety tested. They get absorbed right through the skin (a porous organ that absorbs most substances it comes into contact with) and enter the bloodstream.


For the past several years, there has been considerable interest in the role vitamin D plays in improving health and preventing disease. Previous finding show that low levels of vitamin D have been directly associated with various forms of cancer and cardiovascular disease. Stephen B. Kritchevsky, PhD, Professor of Internal Medicine and Transitional Science at the Wake Forest School of Medicine found a significant correlation.


"We observed vitamin D insufficiency (defined as blood levels <20 ng/ml), in one third of our study participants. This was associated with nearly a 50 percent increase in the mortality rate in older adults," said Kritchevsky. "Our findings suggest that low levels of vitamin D may be a substantial public health concern for our nation's older adults."


Cedric F. Garland, Dr.P.H., cancer prevention specialist at the Moores Cancer Center at the University of California, San Diego (UCSD) and colleagues estimate that 250,000 cases of colorectal cancer and 350,000 cases of breast cancer could be prevented worldwide by increasing intake of vitamin D3, particularly in countries north of the equator. "For the first time, we are saying that 600,000 cases of breast and colorectal cancer could be prevented each year worldwide, including nearly 150,000 in the United States alone," said Garland.


Although vitamin D can be obtained from limited dietary sources and directly from exposure to the sun during the spring and summer months, the combination of poor dietary intake and sun avoidance has created vitamin D deficiency or insufficiency in large proportions of many populations worldwide.


It is known that vitamin D has a wide range of physiological effects and that correlations exist between insufficient amounts of vitamin D and an increased incidence of a number of cancers. These correlations are particularly strong for cancers of the digestive tract, including colon cancer, and certain forms of leukemia.


Spending an average of three hours a day exposed to sunlight can slash the risk of breast cancer by up to 50 percent.


People with higher blood levels of vitamin D live significantly longerthan people who have low blood levels of the vitamin.


A new study from University College London in the UK found that people with higher vitamin D levels had a 43% lower risk of depression, compared to people with vitamin D lower levels.
Results published in Clinical Nutrition also indicated that the higher vitamin D levels were associated with a 67% lower risk of panic, compared to the lower levels.
"The high burden of mental and behavioral disorders and concurrent high prevalence of vitamin D insufficiency (<75nmol/l) worldwide (29) highlight the potential importance of our findings," wrote the researchers, led by Jane Maddock from the UCL Institute of Child Health.


People with the highest levels of vitamin D have the lowest risk of skin cancer. Sure, you can get some of that from a pill...but historically, most people have gotten their D straight from the source: the sun, and protecting yourself from it 100 years ago with clothing, cream or anything would likely have been viewed as its own mental health disorder.


How To Make Your Own Non-Toxic Sunscreen

While the sun will not cause cancer, it is not in your best interest to burn your skin. So if you are prone to burning easily, try making your own natural sunscreen to extend your exposure.


New York Times Best selling author, Sophie Uliano of Gorgeously Greenand her new book DO IT GORGEOUSLY, shows you how to make your own non toxic sunscreen in less than 4 minutes.


Please omit zinc oxide from the recipe to make a truly natural and toxic free version of this sunscreen, especially during preparation. Zinc oxide can affect the lungs and reproductive system if inhaled. Replace the zinc oxide with 1 tablespoon of avocado oil which helps increase the sun protection factor (SPF).
Recipe: (SPF 6-8)
2 tablespoon Virgin Coconut Oil
1 tablespoon Shea Butter
1 tablespoon Avocado Oil
1/2 teaspoon Sesame Oil
1/2 teaspoon Aloe Vera Gel
Keep in mind that this recipe will not allow you to stay in the sun for hours without burning, even if you have darker skin. If you have pale skin and are prone to burning in very short periods, this recipe will only modestly protect you when UV rays are at their highest strength. Intermittent periods spent in the shade are highly recommended to balance the UV dose you receive.


For those that tan well, this lotion will give you an excellent color and glow if used daily while spending a minimum of 30 minutes in the sun.


Although it not waterproof, it is water resistant if applied thoroughly and spread evenly. In direct sunlight, you must reapply a thin layer of the lotion every half hour for optimal results.



Spread the word: Please promote the use of non-toxic sunscreens.

Marco Torres is a research specialist, writer and consumer advocate for healthy lifestyles. He holds degrees in Public Health and Environmental Science and is a professional speaker on topics such as disease prevention, environmental toxins and health policy.

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Hi Topcat,

Thanks for the response. I'm sure you're probably active on some political debate forums and are a force to be reckoned with!

I'll be watching as your HT progresses and I'm curious if you have a next step in mind at this time.

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Matt, the plan is to go back to Brussels in Sept. Dr. Bisanga will evaluate the donor areas and then proceed from there.

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Matt my comment on geopolitics was to make a point. I always assume readers will understand what I'm trying to say but I suppose sometimes I assume too much. In order to understand what is really going on in the world you have to read dozens and dozens of books over years. When you see events unfold over time you can kind of put the pieces of the puzzle together and get a better idea of what is truth and what is simply information that is being provided to manipulate or create an image.

The forums can often times depending on the forum be much like television where the information is easily controlled and the viewers are easily manipulated. Some forums of course are better than others such as this one where a message outside of one provided by those that work the industry can be posted for others to consider. They don't need to believe any of it all they need to do is take the information in sit back and try to put all the pieces of the puzzle together for themselves over a long a period of time as possible.

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Thats a great bit of info topcat, i also believe that most sunscreens are no good. Do you think there is a way of ridding the body of the toxins that have been used in the past, a way to cleanse the lymph nodes form a build up of heavy metals and such?
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Hey tommo yes usually anything green is very cleansing for the body. But most especially chlorella for removing heavy metals. I don't use it because I find it very hard to digest but I have enough mercury in my mouth where I can understand what you are saying so I just include other greens in my diet. I really like broccoli sprouts which I grow myself as they are very good at removing xenoestrogens from the system.


When it comes to the sun and the huge spike in skin cancer over the last 50 years or so what has changed. It certainly has not been the sun and regardless of those that believe ozone depletion or whatever theory one only needs to understand where the spikes are and where they are not and one can only come to the conclusion that it must be something else of which there is plenty to choose. John Ott has made the subject his lifelong passion so he has some really good published works.

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Looking good topcat, any new up to date pics? When is the next procedure?
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Hi Stevie and thank you.

Yes I will be updating my pics maybe today and I am scheduled to be in Brussels in Sept.

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Here is my 8 month update after my 3 procedure. All the procedures have been relatively small in size and using a high percentage of beard and body hair. I normally use concealer but the picture below is with no concealer at all. The first one I have taken which is close to my normal hair style as opposed to the ones posted showing it straight back in previous postings.

Taking into account where I started from the progress so far has been excellent.


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I have heard from many in the industry that if they looked they could find white dotting. Even with having spent quite a deal of time outside in the sun with a tan only accentuating any scarring I say you would be very hard pressed unless you were using some type of magnification which is not the normal way a person would be observed. I also believe in my case the hair blends in very well.

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I think it is such a great improvement man and I couldn't agree more on the white dotting, I can't find mine at all either, not saying that every FUE doc can get that but Bisanga seems to be great, I think Feriduni and Gho are also working the magic. In my opinion I think your front is completely fixed man, I would go for filling in the scars if I were you, but I don't think your too worried about it when we talked in past convos on the subject. Also I see no dotting or irregularity anywhere on your chest or chin which is great news for all of us to be sure, how much do you think you healthy lifestyle helps your great results from the HT (eating right, working out etc.)?. But really though man it looks amazing, I am really happy for ya as you have helped myself and countless others with your knowledge of this industry, congrats bro!
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Just want to post some photos with the sides shaved as that is where the scalp fue's were harvested good for others to see that are considering a fue procedure. When I believe small hand punches are the best approach I say that for a reason and it's not some new idea that just popped into my head.

I really like this look and will probably go higher in the weeks to come with shaving the sides. It makes it appear that I have even more hair on top and gets rid of all the grey on the side. I have had 2 random comments from people over the last few weeks that I look like I'm getting younger which is always nice to hear. I think it's a combination of fat loss , getting rid of the grey and more hair on top. Also I will add that regardless of how much time I am out in the sun my skin looks very good and is very tight even around the eyes. Just want to make the point that skin is more about diet in my opinion.

I can see taking even more scalp hair at this point the only visible scar is that vertical one near the temple area and it's so thin I don't even give it a second thought.


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Shaved to the bone :-)

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Stay away from doctors who perform mega sessions, have posts deleted, attack posters, sue patients & forum owners, use power drills or robots. I recommend fue with hand punches in the .70-.85 range. I consulted with dozens of clinics over the years and there was a recurring theme regarding FUE among some employees of those other clinics. I was told Bisanga was the man my research told me the same and my experience validated my own research.
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Hair after diving head first into a swimming which I haven't done in about 20 years with a small amount of concealer.
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Stay away from doctors who perform mega sessions, have posts deleted, attack posters, sue patients & forum owners, use power drills or robots. I recommend fue with hand punches in the .70-.85 range. I consulted with dozens of clinics over the years and there was a recurring theme regarding FUE among some employees of those other clinics. I was told Bisanga was the man my research told me the same and my experience validated my own research.
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Hey topcat,
I have been following your progress for a long time. I'm so happy to see the great progress you made. Your results look great and jumping in the pool was Huge!!! Trust me I get it... BCKINTHEWATR is my name on here for that reason.

I've been researching for a long time. It's clear your spot on regarding your research and your repair dr. I am looking to repair my strip scar. Communication with the clinic is limited esp if you live in the states like you and I. I did receive an email from Stephen stating the clinic was booked for the next approximately 7 months. Do you have any advice on getting started sooner? I've been researching this for about 8 years and I am ready to move forward.

Thanks for all your help.. You and Stevier have helped many more people than you could possibly know. Your time and experience is very much appreciated.
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The best advice I can give you is that if you have to wait then just wait. I waited 2 years in between the first 2 procedures and then my flight got cancelled on the 3rd procedure and I had to wait another 6 months or so.

Of course sometimes it is difficult to be patient but I have learned to go slow over the years so for me it was not a problem.

And diving head first into a swimming pool with quite a few people poolside was absolutely huge........lol..........

thanks for the comments.

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Stay away from doctors who perform mega sessions, have posts deleted, attack posters, sue patients & forum owners, use power drills or robots. I recommend fue with hand punches in the .70-.85 range. I consulted with dozens of clinics over the years and there was a recurring theme regarding FUE among some employees of those other clinics. I was told Bisanga was the man my research told me the same and my experience validated my own research.
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Topcat, I don't come to this forum much but I do check in mostly to see your progress. Have you thought about cutting your hair high and tight mush like a marine cut. not much longer than a 2 guard on top. 0 just over the ears and lower back. It would work well. One thing I've learned over the last 5 years is less is more when it comes to hairloss.

progress looks great....

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Hi NEguy yes that is pretty much what I have been doing. Hoping to build up some density right down the middle of my head on the next procedure as I believe the difference would be huge.

Check out the pictures posted on page 10 of this thread and the cut I now have I believe is exactly what you are talking about. Of course I'm limited in the back with all the scarring but I still keep it as short as possible.

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Stay away from doctors who perform mega sessions, have posts deleted, attack posters, sue patients & forum owners, use power drills or robots. I recommend fue with hand punches in the .70-.85 range. I consulted with dozens of clinics over the years and there was a recurring theme regarding FUE among some employees of those other clinics. I was told Bisanga was the man my research told me the same and my experience validated my own research.
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Hi Topcat,

I wish I had come across your posts earlier. I have had a "mega session" of 4000 grafts and now I'm 1.5 months post operation going through notorious "ugly duckling phase". I'm just wondering if you are using minoxidil on your hair? Do you think applying it on the hair after the operation would improve the results? cheers
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Hi Mel B I don't think there is a definitive answer on that question from what I have seen over the years. I prefer not to use the medication and believe it's effectiveness is very limited.

I used it before it was even on the market back around 1980 or so then on and off over the years and was never really impressed. In fact I had a very bad reaction to the foam version where it nearly destroyed my face making it appear haggard looking with dark circles around the eyes and all puffy.

My suggestion would be to just let your head heal and try to eat a healthy diet.

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Stay away from doctors who perform mega sessions, have posts deleted, attack posters, sue patients & forum owners, use power drills or robots. I recommend fue with hand punches in the .70-.85 range. I consulted with dozens of clinics over the years and there was a recurring theme regarding FUE among some employees of those other clinics. I was told Bisanga was the man my research told me the same and my experience validated my own research.
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Hey topcat, what drs would you recommend for a strip scar revision? I plan on revising the scar first then going for fue into the scar.
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Backinthewater I don't really like to recommend doctors on the forums outside of a doctor with whom I have actual experience. I think too many on the forums are quick to recommend someone when they in fact are only going by what they have read with no actual experience it almost becomes laughable at some point.

I think many are in for a very rude awakening as I have heard some very disturbing stories.

All I can really suggest would be try to contact actual patients of doctors that are on your list because you like the doctor after having judged their body of work. In my opinion actual patients are much more likely to be truthful when you meet them in person or speak over the phone. They are not in the business and they have nothing to gain by not being completely honest and more than likely don't want to take on the responsibility of steering you in the wrong direction.

Outside of that contact as many clinics as possible and get an assessment of your situation and cross reference the opinions as a start. Revisions don't always go well and sometimes just going with fue is a better option depending on the width of the scar and other variables like scalp laxity.

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Stay away from doctors who perform mega sessions, have posts deleted, attack posters, sue patients & forum owners, use power drills or robots. I recommend fue with hand punches in the .70-.85 range. I consulted with dozens of clinics over the years and there was a recurring theme regarding FUE among some employees of those other clinics. I was told Bisanga was the man my research told me the same and my experience validated my own research.
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Thanks topcat that is good advice.
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Backinthewater here are just some random thoughts that might be helpful.

I think Dr. Bisanga and BHR are the best in the world for several reasons. Dr. Bisanga is both skilled and experienced, has an extensive body of work, those that I asked over the years that actually worked in the industry but who were not performing fue at the time believed he was the best, the posts made by those that work for BHR were always informative and thought provoking, I have never seen the clinic attack a patient, ask for a posting to be deleted or archived, the staff I found to be incredibly customer service oriented and Dr. Bisanga has a very easy going relaxed manner about him that usually comes only when one is very confident in their ability. Do all these things matter they do to me.

A good place for you to start might be to ask clinics that only perform fue where to go for revision but of course this is no guarantee but just a start. Then spend more time on the forums and hopefully you will encounter others that are in the process of a having a revision performed but this takes time and patience.

And something else to consider is the age of the person you are getting advice from and more often than not the older the better.

I just read somewhere else a young rep advising that the only way they would consider fue is with a robot. Here is someone that has never had a procedure, works for a clinic that just got a robot and has no problem giving advice on something he knows nothing about. Some young guy might come across it and believe every single word and the rep is too young to care just doing his job.

Too many young guy's criteria for a ht is cost and location...............and I get it and I was there once but it's the wrong criteria and I'm sure you would agree. Take your time.

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Stay away from doctors who perform mega sessions, have posts deleted, attack posters, sue patients & forum owners, use power drills or robots. I recommend fue with hand punches in the .70-.85 range. I consulted with dozens of clinics over the years and there was a recurring theme regarding FUE among some employees of those other clinics. I was told Bisanga was the man my research told me the same and my experience validated my own research.

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Yea I do agree..
I have been talking with Steve from bhr. He's a good guy and really knowledgable.
Thanks topcat
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My next procedure is scheduled for early September. During the healing process I will consume 12-20 raw eggs per day. The extra cholesterol in critical in the wound healing process as anyone with arterial inflammation knows. If fact it's so good that it occludes inflamed arteries. What many don't understand it that it's not the cholesterol one should be afraid of but what is causing the inflammation.

My blood indicators for inflammation specifically homocysteine and c-reactive protein are very low so it is not an issue for me and they are low due to diet. Many believe a dead powder like whey protein is beneficial but I would strongly disagree.

Another important note outside of the healing process, cholesterol is extremely important for a healthy nervous system. It works with the sun to produce vitamin d which is essential to proper nerve function. One only need to looks at those taking statins and they will understand why they often experience excruciating nerve and muscle pain. We could also look at diseases that are nerve related like MS which is often found at higher latitudes as opposed to those living near the equator. If you are experiencing pain it could be as simple as not having enough healthy fat in your diet which would include cholesterol along with plenty of sunshine. But I could be completely wrong here as I'm not a doctor. Maybe your body just doesn't have enough statins and pain medication.

I believe part of the healing process is the responsibility of the patient and diet is critical in my opinion. What is even more interesting is that a doctor could never recommend one consume more cholesterol as it would be considered out of the mainstream which is exactly how the system is suppose to work.

I will update after the procedure.

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Topcat,
When do you start your healing regimen? When you arrive back home from Belgium or before your procedure?
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