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Topic Title: Kobren says long term use of T-Gel or Head/shoulders causes hairloss..how long is?
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Created On: 06/09/2002 10:25 PM
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 06/09/2002 10:25 PM
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BrightNail
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how long is "long term" considered......he said on his show tonight that long term use of an anti-inflammatory shampoo actually causes hairloss....how long is long term?...I've been using T-Gel for 3 weeks everyday now...

 06/10/2002 12:04 AM
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You should not use a medicated shampoo every day. I would not use it for months on end, use it every few days unless you have been advised otherwise by a doctor. There is also the possiblity that the coal tar in T-Gel is carcinogenic.

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 06/10/2002 12:09 AM
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Hi.......I would have to say for me i've been using "nizoral" for quite sometime,cant really say its had a negative effect or accelerated hairloss but....for T-gel or H&S im not sure hopefully those who are using those 2 products for a good duration can comment on that!

I will say with any anti-inflammatory shampoo whether it be niz,t-gelor H&S it should only be used 2 to 3 times weekly anyway due its whole basic purpose is keeping dandruff and other scalp conditions in check.

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 06/10/2002 01:01 AM
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oops,,,cause I have been using it everyday for like 3 weeks....that is not good...could I have done some damage??? or is 3 weeks not enough time???? I will start on my other shampoos for a while...damn!
 06/10/2002 08:06 AM
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I wouldn´t worry BrightNail, 3 weeks isn´t long term.

Any suggestions for inexpensive good shampoos to throw in between niz and/or H&S?
 06/10/2002 09:09 AM
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I thought Spencer was dead... Has Spencer addressed his abandonment of thebaldtruth.com on his radio show?
 06/10/2002 10:23 AM
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Yikes!!!

Color me an idiot! I've been using T-Gel for years. It even states on the bottle that it's safe for everyday use and now Farrel says there are questions about coal tar being carcinogenic! I must really have bought into their marketing ploy. I must say though, I've never experienced any adverse effects from such an extended use period. I guess it's probably a good idea to throw another shampoo into my regimen. I'm glad a read this thread. Thanks, guys. Dig

 06/10/2002 11:03 AM
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Did Spencer talk about Nizerol as well. I use it almost every day because it makes my scalp feel great. I find my scalp is far more itchy on days when I don't use it. What kind of damage was Spencer referring to or was he just being politically correct again by telling people to follow the instructions on the lable?
 06/10/2002 11:58 AM
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What is he basing this on? Are there studies to prove this?

My father has been using head and shoulders for about 15 years, and he has a good amount of hair just has a high forehead.
 06/10/2002 12:43 PM
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I used T-Gel for a very short time.It made my hair very brittle and dry.I stopped using it and started %2 Nizoral.I switch on and off with Progaine every other day.
 06/10/2002 01:23 PM
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I'm definitely no doctor, and this is just my opinion, but I don't think Nizoral is harmful if you use it everyday. T/Gel and H/S ... even there I'm skeptical that you're going to see any noticable hairloss. In fact, in my own case, I have pretty bad dandruff so if I even miss one day without a medicated shampoo it comes back with a vengeance. I'm not going to stop my use of the products based on Spencer's report. We're all (hopefully) on a regimen that reduces dht and stimulates hair growth. I doubt that using these shampoos will cause any serious problems. In fact, a lot of alarmist literature out there points at one of the most common ingredients in almost all hair care products, sodium laurel sulfate, as possibly causing cancer and being very carcinogenic.

I would challenge people to find even one person who can prove that using these shampoos caused any noticable hairloss (barring hairloss caused by a severe immune reaction to the products).

 06/10/2002 08:43 PM
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Digboy. To be honest I dont know if there is proof that it is carcinogenic but just that it could be. Here is some info for you to read about the issue

http://www.psoriasis.org/coaltar.lawsuit.022402.htm

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 06/10/2002 10:48 PM
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I like neutrogena t-gel but I'm considering dropping it right now. My tolerance to minoxidil is working "too" well. I have completely stopped itching my scalp. It's due to a combination of antiinflammatory products. If I drop the t-gel then i'm sure it will not make a difference. I do like using it because I think the coal extract is kinda cool, and IMO I think it smells good.
 06/10/2002 10:51 PM
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The reason why people suspect the coal tar TGel to be carcinogenic is because in large doses it is dangerous. However, supposedly, the amount in TGEL is so small that it doesn't matter.
 06/10/2002 11:57 PM
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I like listening to Spencer's show. Kobren can be kind of boring at times, but he does provide a lot of great imformation. And that Intern Dave guy is kind of funny...goofy, but funny.

What ever happened with all the Howard Stern stuff? Didn't they make some kind of bet with him about his hair? What ever happened with that?
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