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Topic Title: Soy Isoflavones / Capsaicin (Cayenne Pepper)
Topic Summary: Interesting. No??
Created On: 10/12/2009 05:42 PM
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 10/12/2009 05:42 PM
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HairWinstheRace
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Anyone trying capsaicin (cayenne pepper) and soy isoflavones? Pretty recent article/study. http://inhumanexperiment.blogs...lavones-grow-hair.html

Edited: 10/12/2009 at 05:49 PM by HairWinstheRace
 10/12/2009 05:50 PM
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Check out the human study link in the site above.
 10/12/2009 05:55 PM
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http://cat.inist.fr/?aModele=afficheN&cpsidt=19062253

That's it. Sorry. Can't seem to edit posts with success.
 10/13/2009 09:37 AM
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That's very interesting. About 4/5 weeks ago I started using a product called Densiti. Even though I currently take Proscar and use a minoxidil product and have for many year's my hair loss had accelerated several months ago to the point of losing anywhere from 150 to 250 hairs per day. I heard about Densiti on this forum and decided to try it. Since they are just starting out and conducting studies I was not charged for the first two months supply. I was asked to fill out an interim assessment at 3 weeks and then will do another at 7 weeks. Along with taking two Densiti pills two times per day you're also required to eat one serving of Yoplait yogurt(I think it normalizes the intestinal flora) and consume two or three glasses of soy milk per day. I noticed no change for about 3 weeks and then about a week ago my hair loss was down by half. Within five days it was down to about a quarter of what is was at it's worst and that's about where I am today. The theory behind Densiti has to do with the soy and Densiti metabolizing equol and it's effect on circulating DHT. Apparantely equol binds to the DHT thus preventing it from binding to the hair follicle. I don't understand it all but I think that's the gist of it. It seems to have worked for me so far. So, maybe there is something to this.
 11/02/2009 09:50 AM
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I started the combination when I first read the Japanese study at inhuman experiment blog. I'm adding a little cayenne pepper to my soy latte or soy mocha in the morning and night. I beginning to see little hairs on my hair line; some of the hairs at first where just white, thin and curly. Then I just last week some tiny hairs, still thin, coming out darker and straighter. Also my hair seems to be growing faster. Now, on the outside of my bare lower legs I noticed red dots over the weekend. And I can't be certain of this at this point, but I believe I have a couple of hairs growing in those areas. Again I'm not certain because I rarely pay attention to the bald spots on my lower legs and I may not have noticed those hairs in the past. I have been on this isoflavone/capsaicin combo for little under a month.

btw - I started 1% Nizoral shampoo 2-3/wk about 2 months ago and because I am drinking more soy milk, I'm drinking less organic milk. So, I don't know how much I can attribute the soy/cayenne combo to this hair growth.
 11/02/2009 11:10 AM
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interestingly there is a capsicum ointment muscle rub available on prescription.
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anyone been using Capsaicin alone? the study looks great! im looking to give this a shot but anyone know where i can get Capsaicin pills from?

or would cayenne pepper pills be ok?

 12/24/2014 04:42 AM
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Forget the pills. Get the capsaicin and soy iso from its natural source. Its a win win situation that way. You have better health, you lose weight, you gain back hair, you look great. AND you can put on top of that, you can use modern medicine to help double wammy.
 12/25/2014 03:18 AM
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Just nerfing through the article I'm not very impressed. The two pics of AGA patients showed pretty tiny improvements and the pic conditions probably fostered it. The big improvements were for non-AGA types of hair loss and rodents.


There is also too much general linkage between soy and estrogenizing effects for my comfort.

I know this study didn't point that direction. But the subject of soy is much bigger than this study.


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 12/25/2014 10:16 AM
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This study was conducted by my country's university professors.
They were dismissed or suspended because they fabricated this study.
So please forget about it.

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 12/25/2014 12:11 PM
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Originally posted by: FUSAFUSA

This study was conducted by my country's university professors.

They were dismissed or suspended because they fabricated this study.

So please forget about it.


hahahaha very good to know, thanks

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 12/25/2014 03:45 PM
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Originally posted by: FUSAFUSA

This study was conducted by my country's university professors.

They were dismissed or suspended because they fabricated this study.

So please forget about it.



Hi FUSAFUSA,

if "they fabricated this study" then how did the patients in the study actually regrow hair in what seemed to be balding and or thinning areas of their scalp?

Was the regrowth shown "fabricated" as well by use of hair concealers like Toppik?
 12/25/2014 08:31 PM
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Originally posted by: TurnBackTime
Hi FUSAFUSA,



if "they fabricated this study" then how did the patients in the study actually regrow hair in what seemed to be balding and or thinning areas of their scalp?



Was the regrowth shown "fabricated" as well by use of hair concealers like Toppik?

Sorry, I don't know the details.
According to reports, the professors purposely altered images and fraudulently duplicated it from other studies.

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