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Topic Title: DermMatch ruined my hair, will Toppik have the same effect?
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Created On: 08/16/2004 08:01 AM
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 08/16/2004 08:01 AM
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frozenbones
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I've previously used DermMatch, but decided to quit after a couple of months because the stuff made my hair very dull (I also suspect that it made my hairloss even worse). I've been thinking about trying Toppik instead - has anyone experienced the same "side effects" with that substance? I guess the chemicals contained in all hair concealers are pretty tough on your hair and scalp, but Toppik isn't supposed to ever get in contact with the scalp so I was thinking maybe that's a good thing... Anyway, I would like to hear some stories from Toppik users: does it ruin your hair and/or make your hairloss worse?

Thanks a bunch!
 08/16/2004 08:19 AM
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Dermatch would not have 'ruined' your hair, thats ridiculous.
 08/16/2004 09:21 AM
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Ummm... What's ridiculous about it? Some of the hair coloring chemicals out there are highly toxic.
 08/16/2004 09:54 AM
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While I won't go so far as to say it couldn't happen (after all some people can have an allergic reaction to anything these days), concealers like DermMatch are very safe for most people if they choose to use them. The chemical are not the same as hair color. From the DermMatch website:

Its primary ingredients are emollients. Emollients moisturize and soften your skin. It also has conditioners and texturizers for your hair and colorants to match your hair color. Botanical ingredients give DermMatch its water resistant and hair thickening properties.


Of course the question could be what exactly are the 'colorants' used. I'm told they are non-toxic and there is no ammonia used like with some hair color treatments. The people I have personally talked to that use DermMatch love how it feels on the scalp. I use it myself about 30 minutes after minoxidil dries and a doctor in Dr Lee's office stated that doing so could offer a slight advantage in min absorption. My scalp used to itch a lot and that has stopped with DermMatch. Such concealers aren't perfect for everyone but you are the first person I have heard of that disliked it because they thought it damaged their hair.

Edited: 08/16/2004 at 10:03 AM by FrankBuzin
 08/16/2004 10:09 AM
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Originally posted by: hairnoevil
Dermatch would not have 'ruined' your hair, thats ridiculous.


I second that. Either dht made your hair worse, or you need spectacles.
 08/16/2004 10:57 AM
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FrankBuzin,

Try searching the web for some of the ingredients contained in DermMatch, and you'll find some of them are "under consideration" while some of them might be cancerogenic. (I did my research on this product about half a year ago, so I forgot which substances these are, but they should be pretty easy to find with google.) When I asked DermMatch about this, they simply sent me an email with a word document attached to it. The word docuemt contained FDA rankings for most substances, except the ones I found suspicious. When I emailed them back about this, the only answer I got was "we don't have any more information to offer you". If you think I'm making this up, I encourage you to do the same thing (maybe they have more information to offer now). ; )

What I find hilarious about DermMatch is that they call it "natural", when the list of ingredients is one of the longest I've ever seen and most of the substances are not natural. A friend of mine is a toxologist, and when I showed the product to him telling him that the company making it claimed it to be natural, he just laughed.

I'm not saying that Toppik is any better than DermMatch, because I haven't tried it yet. Has anyone else tried Toppik over a long period of time? What did it do yo your hair?
 08/16/2004 11:33 AM
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I, too, am considering toppik, but after this thread, i am not so sure. Toppik users, do you fellas have anything to say about this?
 08/16/2004 12:24 PM
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Just about everything in anything is under consideration as a carcinogen by someone. Please provide exact info. I looked up the ingredients when I started using it as well and nothing stood out. And incidently I first heard about DermMatch years before i started using it from my sister who said doctors at the cancer center in her hostipal (she is a nurse) recommended it to their patients growing hair back from chemo.

Some people don't like concealers in general here, or they like other concealers better, but like I said you are the first I've seen to imply that DermMatch 'ruined' their hair.

Edited: 08/16/2004 at 12:26 PM by FrankBuzin
 08/17/2004 01:50 AM
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stop the crap about How dermatch and hair concealers cant be harmful to your hair...you guys are so Frikken idotic...

anyway i tried dermatch too and after wearing it for 12 hours a day i noticed it too was making my hair thinner and after washing it out my scalp felt sensitive...and irittated.....

so ya they can be bad for you

 08/17/2004 05:46 AM
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Originally posted by: JeminiCrickets
stop the crap about How dermatch and hair concealers cant be harmful to your hair...you guys are so Frikken idotic...



anyway i tried dermatch too and after wearing it for 12 hours a day i noticed it too was making my hair thinner and after washing it out my scalp felt sensitive...and irittated.....



so ya they can be bad for you


Your hair thinned out in 12 hours?!?? lol

 08/17/2004 06:22 AM
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Ive tried it like 4 times now...dermatch that is...and i would wear it for like 12 hours a day or so..then wash it out...one time i slept with it on....

it makes my scalp irritated...its not good for the scalp...to have basically paint on it...our scalp isn't a canvas....maybe art stores should sell dermatch as paint..its waterproof....
 08/17/2004 06:37 AM
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I suppose it could be harmful to some, but I've used it for years and leave it on for two days at a time and haven't noticed any change in my hair or scalp. Toppik def doesn't harm your hair as it is just a "natural?" powder that bonds to your hair. I would never be afraid to use toppik.
What effect does coloring have on your hair? I color my hair too and want to be sure I'm not hurting my already thinning hair.
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 08/17/2004 08:04 AM
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stop the crap about How dermatch and hair concealers cant be harmful to your hair...you guys are so Frikken idotic...

anyway i tried dermatch too and after wearing it for 12 hours a day i noticed it too was making my hair thinner and after washing it out my scalp felt sensitive...and irittated.....


I think I mentioned that a person can be sensitive to just about anything. Many people that are here trying minoxidil, fluridil, spiro, and who knows what other substances on their head (and yes concealers) are likely to find that one of them or some combination of them cause problems. Concealers are the least likely of these IMHO to 'ruin' hair. Personal I find that DermMatch 'sooths' my scalp after so of the harsher things I put on my head. But again that doesn't preclude anybody from having a different experience. So now we've heard of two people who think concealers harmed their hair. Anyone else?

Edited: 08/17/2004 at 08:34 AM by FrankBuzin
 08/18/2004 09:23 AM
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*bump*

I think this discussion is important, keep on posting your experiences with hair loss concealers!
 08/18/2004 10:38 AM
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Originally posted by: frozenbones
*bump*



I think this discussion is important, keep on posting your experiences with hair loss concealers!



Its important but your topic title is very unfair to Dermatch. That stuff has been the only thing thats prevented me from shaving all my hair off for the last 2 years. With it I have full head of hair and have managed to 'trick' everyone into thinking that, its only my parents who even know of my hairloss and thats because I've told them.

Some people may see this topic title and be under the impression that Dermatch is horrible stuff when infact its probably safe and will not cause hair damage for 99.9999% of its users.
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I thing the problem with DermMatch comes from rubbing this into your hair. This exercise will exhaust you hair additionally. And then styling the hair exhaust your hair more and more and there is more and more fall hairs.
 06/25/2013 07:36 PM
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Hi I have been using dermmatch for three months now and it's fantastic , any bad feed back is just not true, and it probably comes from a competitor anyway.
The simple fact is it worked for me, and it will work for you, it is all natural ingredient , before using dermmatch I suffered with psoriasis
In my scalp it has now disappeared, I leave dermmatch in for up to three to four days depending how often I wash my hair.
Don't listen to anyone who claims it's bad for you it's simply not true.

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 06/26/2013 11:41 PM
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I have used Dermatch for 7 years and never had issues. Less is more on application or it does look like paint.
I shave 1# and pull it of
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