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 04/28/2004 01:41 AM
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Does DHT affect Beard growth? I have not currenty grown a full beard yet I am worried that if I inhibt DHT via taking saw palmetto it is going to be effecting my beard growth.
I hope it doesnt stun your growth as well!

 04/28/2004 01:49 AM
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jesus, man, relax.

yes, dht does control beard growth and body hair growth in general (in contrast to head hair) and by taking dht inhibitors you have some chances of your beard hair growing slower oor maybe not growing out at all (though that's not highly possible).
but once you quit dht inhibitors and your hormones will be back to their original state, your beard would grow as well. it would just grow later than you thought.

biseides what's so scary about not having a beard?? many man would die for less beard growth as it is their pain in the ass.
 04/28/2004 02:38 AM
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>>>yes, dht does control beard growth and body hair growth<<<

Where did you get that from?
 04/28/2004 03:57 AM
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Hi

Alot of people have told me, if you keep on shaving, even if there are areas of no hair or thin beard hair, you will then grow a beard. Once you keep on shaving areas of thin hair they will come
back thicker. Also areas of no hair it will some how start to grow a beard.

Is this true?
 04/28/2004 04:09 AM
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no that is rubbish.
 04/28/2004 04:20 AM
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For many years there was a myth that if you shaved your head (as well as chest, and facial) that the hair would grow back even thicker. I have a very thick beard now, and my mother would tell me that it was a result of shaving at a young age. I used to believe this when I was in my late teens, and therefore used to get cruecuts during the summer months. Well, after a while me and my protruding ears figured out that it was just a cruel hoax. sob.

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 04/28/2004 07:46 AM
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the misconception came about from young teenagers shaving (males and females), growing older whereby their beards getting naturally thicker, and they perceived it to be because of shaving...

note - females have beards too, they're called bearded women...
 04/28/2004 08:36 AM
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>>>yes, dht does control beard growth and body hair growth<<<



Where did you get that from?


What do you mean where did I het it from??
It's as common knowledge as that of dht causing hairloss.
 04/28/2004 09:07 AM
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Show me where that is written. Not including forums or questionable web sites.
 04/28/2004 11:07 AM
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I've taken Propecia for 5 1/2 years now...I've never noticed any change in the rate of facial hair growth. Haven't heard of any either, and I've researched this drug up and down.
 04/28/2004 11:14 AM
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Originally posted by: Partly
Show me where that is written. Not including forums or questionable web sites.


Uhh, go look it up. DHT has the inverse affect of head hair on body hair and facial heard
 04/28/2004 11:41 AM
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why is my beard growth increased since I started saw palmetto and nettles?

this would mean I have more dht no?
 04/28/2004 12:35 PM
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Originally posted by: Partly
Show me where that is written. Not including forums or questionable web sites.

Its a well accepted scientific fact that the same hormones that cause baldness stimulate body and facial hair growth. It happens when you go though puberty and its well known in the scientific community. If you do a simple search online there are dozens of references about this.



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 04/28/2004 01:54 PM
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Lifted from another site:

Why is there no loss of beard hair when using anti 5 alpha reductase, or anti androgen drugs

Hair follicles on different parts of the body have different responses to androgens. Scalp hair follicles miniaturise and become less active under androgen influence, especially dihydrotestosterone. In contrast, hair follicles in the pubic areas, and the beard in men, become larger and more active producing thick coarse hair under the influence of the exact same hormones. This might seem to suggest that antiandrogen drugs or any drug that reduces androgen levels near hair follicles, such as 5 alpha reductase inhibitors, may allow increased hair growth on the scalp but hair loss in the pubic and beard areas.

This does not happen - or does it? Comments made in conversation by scientists from Merck, the makers of Propecia, hinted that there may be some slight slow down in the rate of beard growth when using Propecia. Merck scientists claimed that individual dermatologists and some patients using Propecia had contacted the company with claims that they had reduced beard growth. However, none indicated actual beard hair loss.

The lack of complete beard and pubic hair loss is probably due to an apparent "point of no return" that hair follicles seem to pass through when we reach puberty. It seems that the first increase in hormones at puberty have a profound effect on determining the fate of hair follicles in adult life. Once hair follicles in the beard and pubic regions are switched into coarse hair production at puberty there is no going back. Equally, once scalp hair follicles are exposed to androgens in puberty their fate is sealed and the follicles are susceptible to male pattern baldness.

This is clearly demonstrated by some simple observations made when androgens were first identified as being important in pattern baldness. When men are castrated before puberty they never develop pattern baldness, even when there is a history of baldness in their families and even if they are given androgen hormone injections when they are adults. Equally these men have very little or no beard growth. Their public hair is usually in a female pattern and very sparse and there is no obvious increase in body hair growth after giving androgen injections.

In contrast, men castrated during or after puberty do not spontaneously develop pattern baldness, but if they are given androgen hormone injections pattern alopecia develops. They also have little beard growth but beards do develop if the men are given androgen injections.

Clearly the first exposure of hair follicles to androgens during puberty ensures a permanent switch occurs in androgen receptive hair follicles. Beard and pubic hair follicles are fated to grow thick coarse hair. Scalp hair follicles are made susceptible to androgenetic alopecia. Drastic changes in androgen levels in adult life may have minor effects on these hair follicles, but beard and pubic hair follicles cannot be completely switched off by reducing androgen hormone levels using drugs or otherwise.

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Why is there no loss of beard hair when using anti 5 alpha reductase, or anti androgen drugs references


Public discussion at the 7th European Hair Research Society (EHRS) Meeting, York UK. 17th-19th September 1999
Hamilton JB. Effect of Castration in Adolescent and Young Adult Males Upon Further Changes in the Proportions of Bare and Hairy Scalp. J Clin Endocrinol Metab 1960; 20: 1309-14.
Ebling FJ. The biology of hair. Dermatol Clin. 1987 Jul;5(3):467-81.

 04/29/2004 12:50 AM
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Farrel, I was under the impression T controlled body and beard growth. And while DHT, without doubt influences it, it *wasn’t* what *controls* it.

So you are saying, if you have no DHT you have no body/beard hair?


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 04/30/2004 01:48 AM
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DHT is just a concentrated form of testosterone, so its essentially the same thing, just much stronger. I believe DHT exerts a stronger influence on body hair growth than testosterone. This is demonstrated in the people who naturally dont produce DHT but do produce testoerone who have very little, if any body hair and dont go bald.

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